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I truly don't get what you're trying to say. Are you implying that the freemasons have something to do with Ikea?

If this cheap furniture was in a movie would it suddenly become some sort of subliminal message?

Chris - I think you are buggin' really hard on the fact that classical western symbols are existing..


Your like a person in India buggin' out on ganeshes..



check this out from the 80's...I mean WTF masonic take over..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxqiNsPd ... re=related

y'all are like so what if symbols of illumination are ubiquitious. that doesn't mean that the disseminators of all culture are illuminated.

anyway, i just did grandma's boy as an example of something you wouldnt expect. if you cant see the symbols then don't worry. i can go to kindergarten with the matrix or the watchmen if y'all are that dense.

i have close friends who are freemasons and they enthusiastically confirm my awareness of their presence.

so what if there's a sphere at the vatican! i have a beach ball is that a symbol???

Don't get me wrong...I think it's nice that your being excited about culture..


I'm sort of nerdy like that too..

i'm impressed at your ability to miss the point entirely

there's a whole other game being played right in front of everybody's noses if you have eyes to see it

i think you have had one trip too many

i think most of y'all could go for a few more

and watch some movies and watch for the psychic triggers.

try coraline.

nah man theres symbolism and then theres this...

this is over-the-edge type shit

Why do you think it's ONLY masons using these symbols?

Can't anyone interested in spirituality or classical thought use these..


I just got finished with a technical drawing class and we had to "prove" or "reconcile" all of our designs using either the root or golden rectangle and armature..because human beings invariably and subconsciously will always chose them...

Is there something to that...obviously

But I don't know what it is..

Why will humans chose designs that are alligned to perfect natural orders of mathmatics..

Parson wrote:y'all are like so what if symbols of illumination are ubiquitious. that doesn't mean that the disseminators of all culture are illuminated.

what you don't get is there is no way to disseminate between intentinal masonic symbolism and coincidences or normal occurrence of basic geometric patterns, so you have no basis to tell if the checker boards are there intentionally or just because decorators' taste

that's why you would need something better than what you can find everywhere accidentally if you want to make a message visible

good info badly processed ends up useless

You know what - I think I am sort of confused..

Parsons - Your saying masons are doing set design in Hollywood?

bright maroon wrote: Parsons - Your saying masons are doing set design in Hollywood?
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thats exactly what i am saying.

Why does your response sound sarcastic..


for real..

You think Masons have a direct hand in cornering all set design/art direction positions in Hollywood

..and are implimenting a visual agenda..

best thread ever

I'm pretty sure if you made a film right now,
it would be full to death of subliminal spiritual symbolism..

Parson wrote:wouldnt expect. if you cant see the symbols then don't worry. i can go to kindergarten with the matrix or the watchmen if y'all are that dense.

ah, and at kindergaten or anywhere there will be brains behind those eyes and the brains will resonate more to logic than to your lack of it, that's why your fight is futile

This thread is 100% proof for that slit wave/particle arguement..

..because a film can't just be about stuff if Parsons is watching it..