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mico viejo wrote:
i DO think that youth brings a certain disregard for, or ignorance of, rules, and a desire to rebel against the previous generation that often manifests itslef in innovation. And the energy and aggression of a 15 yr old gets harder and harder to compete with as the years pass.

But the bottom line is: do you enjoy it?

nothing else matters.

Just from personal experience I have to say that I wasnt very motivated or energetic when I was 15.

All I cared about was pussy.

It was only after I got all that teenage shit out of my system that I even thought about making tunes.

mico viejo wrote:the bottom line is: do you enjoy it?

nothing else matters.

^Werd to this

I'm only 24, but have been through a few genres production wise and lots more listening wise. Age is nothing but you slowly dying, so do what you enjoy whilst you can

I'll just go ahead and disagree with everyone but maybe one or two, and only from my personal experience. When I was young I came up with a lot of good shit, crazy shit, shit that didn't fit anywhere. I couldn't do much with it, cause it was produced so poorly, but the ideas of it where on point. Now in my advanced age, everything kind of makes sense and I've become formulaic. Is that just me? To an extent. But I hear it and I see it elsewhere. I will never stop making music, but I've been on my longest hiatus in a long long time and it feels good to be free of the music itch for the time being.

As others have said, you probably won't become a rockstar, but you can enjoy yourself experimenting with sound and music.

nowaysj wrote: Now in my advanced age, everything kind of makes sense and I've become formulaic. Is that just me?

It's not just you. I am going through a similar phase right now. The more effort you commit to a certain creative outlet the more patterns/habits/comfort zones form around that outlet.

The way I see things is that the "innovation" available in youth is little more than working without the boundaries of familiarity. The more time you put into something the less "new ground" is available. Techniques are techniques and once you you have a broad pallet of concepts to draw from it is enevitable that unintentional formulas will surface during the creative process. I have had this happen in sculpture, production, performance, etc.

The challenge is to find ways to break things back down so that even though they are familiar they can still be raw and fresh. I am hoping that finally "recording" material will allow me to open up some new ideas and find some new techniques.If not, at least I will get my album done finally

As to the whole "too old" concept I do not believe there is such a thing. One of the guys I used to perform with started in electronic dance music when he was in his early 40s after a head-full of acid at a massive. He had little to no musical background and was more into Tangerine Dream / Steely Dan than anything dancefloor oriented. After a gig one time he went off about how refreshing it was to be apart of something that didn't fit in with his peer group and how exciting it was to be able to play the kind of music that made people simply want to dance.

I miss working with him at times because his background/experience really added something unique to the tunes we were doing. Myself and the other guy in the group were both in our 20s at the time and the cultural differences were often more of an asset than a liability.

I am already planning on rigging up wheelchair/walker as a midi controller so I can keep doing this long past my "prime.":)

nowaysj wrote:I'll just go ahead and disagree with everyone but maybe one or two, and only from my personal experience. When I was young I came up with a lot of good shit, crazy shit, shit that didn't fit anywhere. I couldn't do much with it, cause it was produced so poorly, but the ideas of it where on point. Now in my advanced age, everything kind of makes sense and I've become formulaic. Is that just me? To an extent. But I hear it and I see it elsewhere. I will never stop making music, but I've been on my longest hiatus in a long long time and it feels good to be free of the music itch for the time being.

As others have said, you probably won't become a rockstar, but you can enjoy yourself experimenting with sound and music.

I think sometimes that my opportunity to make the big time may have passed I ain't good looking either so there is a couple strikes against me lol. That is ok tho, making it big in dubstep isn't really the big time anyway. I go thought ruts where I think I get into too much of a routine but I don't enjoy it when it gets like that so I usually just take a break for a while. Not from the music totally just from production. I might focus on Djing for a while and that is a great way to get the creative juices flowing. It goes the other way around too. Djing gets stale too, I'll just forget about it and make some tunes.

Yeah, with me I've noticed that I tend to be either in music making mode or music listening mode, but rarely both at the same time.

alphacat wrote:Yeah, with me I've noticed that I tend to be either in music making mode or music listening mode, but rarely both at the same time.

Yeah and that has nothing to do with age. I think when I was younger I did a lot less listening than making and that kinda hurt me I think.

abZ wrote:I think when I was younger I did a lot less listening than making and that kinda hurt me I think.

Yeah me too, but now that I've been studying music (informally) I feel dry.

nowaysj wrote:

abZ wrote:I think when I was younger I did a lot less listening than making and that kinda hurt me I think.

Yeah me too, but now that I've been studying music (informally) I feel dry.

Interesting. Not even sure what to tell ya. Studying it can open up the possibilities.

^ agreed. Would hate to discourage anyone from studying the masters. Think it's the only way really. Gotta remember, I'm on that short bus spitting out the window at all the pretty girls.

Yeah, of course you are not too old. Music is an art form, and is valid for all ages.

End of, basically.

Making music with technology is a learning process too, and life long learning is great.

BIG UP THE OLDSTEP MASSIVE!

never too old to pick up a new hobby or skill homes! Now if you are also popping pills and sitting in an E-puddle with a pacifier in your mouth giving a back-rub to a fifteen year old then there's a problem!

Sorry to disagree with everyone else- but yes- you are far too old.

polygonfiction wrote:Dadstep is presumably of parental age and made one of my favourite tunes, 'The Naughty Step' - check it out on his myspace.
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That is amazing. Need some dadstep dubplates now.

april i turn 30, my production still sucks but in my head im a badboy dj

therapist wrote:Sorry to disagree with everyone else- but yes- you are far too old.

Just out of interest, how old are you?

abZ wrote:I am 35 but have been making music since I was 16. It is an odd time to start up at that age but why not? I can't think of a reason.

27 an still going strong

used to make lots of dnb but make mostly dubstep now .... mostly lols