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Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:25 am
by DJ Crackle
futures_untold wrote:Try this.

Make a bass, any bass, then pass it through a low pass filter.

After the lowpass filter, use the Scream 4 distortion device set to Digital.

Modulate the Filter frequency cut off and you'll achieve a 'yoy' type bass.
That's what I've been doing, which is what I'd normally recommend. Just starting fucking with formant filters though, 'cause I keep hearing about 'em. Modulating the Y on the formant filter got me some real Dayn-sounding shit.

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:31 pm
by AfterEmpire
Basic A droppin some serious Knowledge. :D for those of u who still cant get it... i dont know WHAT ur not reading cuz this shit is spelled out plain as day...

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:35 pm
by AL4228
I usualy just trap a T-rex in a cage and kick it around abit. Record that with a compressor mic, resample it, call it a day.

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:34 am
by Basic A
AL4228 wrote:I usualy just trap a T-rex in a cage and kick it around abit. Record that with a compressor mic, resample it, call it a day.
:N: :N: :N: :N: :N:
AfterEmpire wrote:Basic A droppin some serious Knowledge. :D for those of u who still cant get it... i dont know WHAT ur not reading cuz this shit is spelled out plain as day...
:oops:

your too kind.

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:49 am
by grobino
This tutorial rocked, definetly helped me finally crank out the talking wubs.

The result is here :D

Soundcloud

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:41 am
by sprayyypaint
im wasted. thor +formant filters!!! play with it homie. experiment n shit!!!

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:02 am
by hifi
nftfhx wrote:So i've spent a fair amount of time trying to come up with the sort of talking synths people like Dayn and occasionally Doctor P use...
funny how you mention Dayn since when he first came to this site he was asking how to make "dirty wobbles" in Massive.

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:05 am
by hifi
NorCoDubstep wrote:Thread resurrection, sorry guys. Is there a decent way to achieve the vowel wobble effect in Logic Pro? My wobble is all set, I just need to get it talking. I'm using the es2 synth. Thanks!
Logic's Bitcrusher works really well.

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:27 pm
by Basic A
Hypefiend wrote:
nftfhx wrote:So i've spent a fair amount of time trying to come up with the sort of talking synths people like Dayn and occasionally Doctor P use...
funny how you mention Dayn since when he first came to this site he was asking how to make "dirty wobbles" in Massive.
So?

Reso used to post too.

Doesnt mean his stuffs not amazing now...

So, lets be honest, and totally derail the thread... his newer chilled stuff... nice huh?

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:43 pm
by CBK81
When you use a bit crusher, be sure to have the resonance up high on the sound before you bit crush it. That helps to give it a more vocal sound.

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:37 pm
by Trebek
Basic A wrote:
nftfhx wrote:haha:)
see, i get the formant filter, i can see how that gets the sound but it makes it more of a drone and then i get lost with this bitcrushing bit?
Use bitcrushers for overdrive... the tanish colored vst one that is kinda a generic google result has three 'modes' too pick from, play with them, then play with the overdrive, then turn your channel volume down to compensate for te massive percieved volume increase that comes from overdriving, then play wtih downsampling for a bit more vocal, and then the key is, make like 6 of those. The idea with vocal bass is that when the average human speaks, it will produce something like 80 different waveforms per vowel to make such a clean sounding speech... you would have to perfectly replicate each of those too get a perfect voice then, and from thier its all natural modulation essentially that we do with our throat and mouth. This is why we have a 'tone of voice' and then 'speech patterns', and those are actually the two classes of speech characteristic the law uses when conducting polygraphs and interogation, and too do voice analysis for matching people to annonymous phonecalls, ect.

Now, to translate that knowledge into bass, you have to get several different waveforms out of your distortions, and do it using the same input signal and output modulation. The presence of these harmonic waveforms, if they are made correctly, will creat ALL those YOYs and YOWs and WAHWAHs n vocal wobble hoo-haa. The idea with using bitcrushers, waveshapers, and formant filters in concert with each other is to produce the variety of UNIQUE and INTERESTING wave layers which must go into your final sound.

So, essentially, everyone I talk too fails here. They send a sine wave or BARE reese / square bass too mixer slot one, stick one bitcrusher on it, n scratch thier heads like lil apes trying to figure out how to get the banana out of the jar without getting thier hand stuck.

You have to send signal to mixer slot 1, and then route mixer slot 1 away form the master channel, so it has input, but no out. Now, you send its signal to several of the slots next to it (I.E. 2,3,4) ... Now, you route all these new slots that are now recieving the original signal away from the master, and send all of them to a single final output track, and cut thier volumes to a level which stabilizes your final output in track 5, have you followed me this far?

Now, using these middle bus tracks, you put a seperate distortion on each one, creating 3 unique waveforms which are meeting back into a final voice, get it?? This is where it is up too you too get entirely creative and abusing, and forge whatever sound you want from the raw steel of the sine wave...

Now LFO the input synth, and lfo the final voice using mixer modulations.

And anyone who told you you need a specific synth is so new and misunderstanding of what sound design is that you should be laughing at them. These are the people who think in VSTs and computer bull, and if you sit em down in fornt of some hardware one day thier gonna shat. Remember kids, its all just some effects on some waveforms. Drums, synths, its waveforms layered. Look at an 808 kick.

RANT OVER>>> QUIT ASKING THIS EVERYDAY>>> NOW YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
This is so simple....But I never thought about doing it that way. I always just created a new track and copied the bassline down to each track. But this idea is FAR better!

THANKS!!!

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:35 pm
by reso
Basic A wrote:
Hypefiend wrote:
nftfhx wrote:So i've spent a fair amount of time trying to come up with the sort of talking synths people like Dayn and occasionally Doctor P use...
funny how you mention Dayn since when he first came to this site he was asking how to make "dirty wobbles" in Massive.
So?

Reso used to post too.

Doesnt mean his stuffs not amazing now...

So, lets be honest, and totally derail the thread... his newer chilled stuff... nice huh?
I still post! :glasses:

I just lurk a lot more these days..

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:51 pm
by hifi
Basic A wrote:
Hypefiend wrote:
nftfhx wrote:So i've spent a fair amount of time trying to come up with the sort of talking synths people like Dayn and occasionally Doctor P use...
funny how you mention Dayn since when he first came to this site he was asking how to make "dirty wobbles" in Massive.
So?

Reso used to post too.

Doesnt mean his stuffs not amazing now...

So, lets be honest, and totally derail the thread... his newer chilled stuff... nice huh?
Wait, I'm not saying Dayn is bad or his stuff isn't good, I'm just saying I think it's funny. <3

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:15 pm
by howiegroove
Hey Basic, I was reading through this thread and your info is on point. I've been producing for a while, and although I can create the vowel sounds without a vowel filter and just using wavetable synths (massive), what really struck me is your routing techniques. What kind of routing schemes do you use? Do you use different routing paths for different reasons? Just curious.

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:01 am
by Basic A
howiegroove wrote:Hey Basic, I was reading through this thread and your info is on point. I've been producing for a while, and although I can create the vowel sounds without a vowel filter and just using wavetable synths (massive), what really struck me is your routing techniques. What kind of routing schemes do you use? Do you use different routing paths for different reasons? Just curious.
we talked on AIm right man?
reso wrote:
Basic A wrote:
Hypefiend wrote:
nftfhx wrote:So i've spent a fair amount of time trying to come up with the sort of talking synths people like Dayn and occasionally Doctor P use...
funny how you mention Dayn since when he first came to this site he was asking how to make "dirty wobbles" in Massive.
So?

Reso used to post too.

Doesnt mean his stuffs not amazing now...

So, lets be honest, and totally derail the thread... his newer chilled stuff... nice huh?
I still post! :glasses:

I just lurk a lot more these days..
Haha, DSF's #1 internet voyeur. Website launch pack was big btw dude.

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:13 pm
by howiegroove
@Basic - Yeah! All gravy!

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:39 pm
by Dayn
Hypefiend wrote:
nftfhx wrote:So i've spent a fair amount of time trying to come up with the sort of talking synths people like Dayn and occasionally Doctor P use...
funny how you mention Dayn since when he first came to this site he was asking how to make "dirty wobbles" in Massive.
PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN!
:m:

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:42 pm
by hifi
Dayn wrote:
Hypefiend wrote:
nftfhx wrote:So i've spent a fair amount of time trying to come up with the sort of talking synths people like Dayn and occasionally Doctor P use...
funny how you mention Dayn since when he first came to this site he was asking how to make "dirty wobbles" in Massive.
PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN!
:m:
No, I love you dayn no homo. your tracks are sick I was just joking it mustve been a user that has a similar user name.

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:07 pm
by Dayn
Haha dude, its cool! I might have asked that and its nothing i would be ashamed of if i did :)
Allthough i cant remember doing it haha.

Re: "talking" wobbles

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:28 pm
by JemGrover
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_consonant

I'm awaiting the day in trepidation :corndance: