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nicenice wrote: We must be conscious to understand consciousness, as in we should think about it. How can you study something that exists in an entirely metaphysical realm. We must use the metaphysical to research the metaphysical and so far as my knowledge goes the mind is the most ready instrument we can use for this.

I'm gonna try to find this fascinating essay about Psychedelic Shamanism I read a few years ago that sort of relates to all of this.

it's more than 20 years ago when i saw on TV the first documentary about the regenerative powers of pyramids. it's a certain ratio that establishes the placement of sarcophagi inside. if you make an exact replica of the pyramids and place stuff in the same position as the sarcophagi even an used razor blade regenerates its edges apparently. go pyramids!

I'm telling my friend about this, he thinks im going skitz.

It makes sense that psychedelic are prohibited because of governments are scared of them. Most reports I've heard about them involve expanded consciousness and this makes it harder for us to be controlled. There's something going on and has been going on for thousands of years that we probably will never know. I want to try and take advantage of these things, I just wish I knew the full extent of them.

nicenice wrote:It makes sense that psychedelic are prohibited because of governments are scared of them. Most reports I've heard about them involve expanded consciousness and this makes it harder for us to be controlled. There's something going on and has been going on for thousands of years that we probably will never know. I want to try and take advantage of these things, I just wish I knew the full extent of them.

I can only speak for myself, and only based on what I myself have experienced on psychedelic drugs...if nothing else, they have helped me better understand who I am. They can facilitate deep insight, but fucking with psychedelics is a gamble, really, especially for people who aren't really used to altered states of consciousness. Acid and shrooms are no joke, that stuff opens up your mind and unless you're careful and responsible with it you can really damage yourself mentally...let alone a drug like DMT, which is straight up known to facilitate contact with intelligent entities and shit. Of course, it could be argued that any such thing you could see or feel on that shit is just somehow a figment of your subconscious mind, but I don't really think we're in any place to be coming to ANY kind of definitive conclusions about this stuff. Some people just straight up can't handle that shit and end up hurting themselves or others (I'm specifically thinking of an incident out here in NY a few years back in which a teenager like stabbed some other dude to death on acid because he was jealous that the guy was talking to his girl or something - after which he proceeded to try to hide the body in a pond )...so on some level, I think these laws are justified, BUT the fact that virtually all research on hallucinogenic drugs has been halted (well, as far as I know, anyway) is fucked up.

I don't fuck with hallucinogens anymore.

I was watching a documentary on LSD, I forgot where or who had allowed it but some countries are allowing research into LSD again. Not for the hallucinogenic properties. But for how it can help cluster headaches. If I remember correctly its one scientist in America (might not be though), who is allowed to carry research into this. Apparently he produces the purest LSD as well.

finally found the time to watch the vid and it's fucking great
in case you haven't seen it already, YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO MISS THIS KNOWLEDGE PEOPLE!

feral witchchild wrote:

nicenice wrote:It makes sense that psychedelic are prohibited because of governments are scared of them. Most reports I've heard about them involve expanded consciousness and this makes it harder for us to be controlled. There's something going on and has been going on for thousands of years that we probably will never know. I want to try and take advantage of these things, I just wish I knew the full extent of them.

I can only speak for myself, and only based on what I myself have experienced on psychedelic drugs...if nothing else, they have helped me better understand who I am. They can facilitate deep insight, but fucking with psychedelics is a gamble, really, especially for people who aren't really used to altered states of consciousness. Acid and shrooms are no joke, that stuff opens up your mind and unless you're careful and responsible with it you can really damage yourself mentally...let alone a drug like DMT, which is straight up known to facilitate contact with intelligent entities and shit. Of course, it could be argued that any such thing you could see or feel on that shit is just somehow a figment of your subconscious mind, but I don't really think we're in any place to be coming to ANY kind of definitive conclusions about this stuff. Some people just straight up can't handle that shit and end up hurting themselves or others (I'm specifically thinking of an incident out here in NY a few years back in which a teenager like stabbed some other dude to death on acid because he was jealous that the guy was talking to his girl or something - after which he proceeded to try to hide the body in a pond )...so on some level, I think these laws are justified, BUT the fact that virtually all research on hallucinogenic drugs has been halted (well, as far as I know, anyway) is fucked up.

I don't fuck with hallucinogens anymore.

all these issues can be simply solved by using the drug wars money for drug research and education. most legal drugs do you more damage if erroneously prescribed, but they're still legal. imagine if well trained and well intended specialists would analyse your mind and body and would provide you accurate info of the benefits and risks [and why not supervision during the trip], instead of mr. brown firing specialists for speaking the truth!

Come on, how can anyone of you actually believe this...
Atlantis, new world order, ...
It never existed or exists in the way you guys think.

did you even watch the video?

I did, and i thought it was utter shite.
Everything is explainable ...
these guys are just messed up in the head.
Is he even a real scientist?
EX: the scene with the "maps" that are carved.
most of the archeological sites that were excavated contained 1000's of pieces of pottery, ofcourse if you find some pieces of some pottery and you treat it like it's a map.
come on guys, common sense...

And where should this atlantis be? in the atlantic, around a depth of 4000-6000 meters (or even deeper in the ridge)?

Hackman you are a great producer, but please.
Don't consider this as truth because it has bullshit written all over it.
I study history & had archeology/geography in my 1ste bachelor, so i think i know what i'm talking about.

fretn wrote:I did, and i thought it was utter shite.
Everything is explainable ...
these guys are just messed up in the head.
Is he even a real scientist?
EX: the scene with the "maps" that are carved.
most of the archeological sites that were excavated contained 1000's of pieces of pottery, ofcourse if you find some pieces of some pottery and you treat it like it's a map.
come on guys, common sense...

And where should this atlantis be? in the atlantic, around a depth of 4000-6000 meters (or even deeper in the ridge)?

woooow, ok cool

fretn wrote:I study history & had archeology/geography in my 1ste bachelor, so i think i know what i'm talking about.

seeing as how mainstream archaeology dismisses this, cos it can't explain it, i don't think your qualification is relevant at all, and i don't think you know what your talking about at all either lol, sorry
please explain to me these findings from the video then:

the submerged stuff off japan
the cup with magnetic field on inside not outside
steel chrome ball found in statuette, dated 12,000 years old
all the stuff made from ludite (don't know if that's spelled correctly) which is impossible to make today
all their knowledge of microscopic body stuff, sperm eggs
the writing that doesn't fit any south american culture, and is found all over the world
the crazy skulls

fretn wrote:EX: the scene with the "maps" that are carved.
most of the archeological sites that were excavated contained 1000's of pieces of pottery, ofcourse if you find some pieces of some pottery and you treat it like it's a map.

no sense made here, for one the map i think your referring to was a stone, not pottery

check out my first two posts in this thread http://www.dubstepforum.com/short-docum ... 13057.html

check out the symbolism used on that archaeology site. they don't have it wrong. they are trying to ensure we have it wrong.

which site, klaus donas?
couldn't see any symbolism at all except for one symbol

also if y'all wanna check out a cool documentary series that approaches ancient egypt from the perspective of them being more technologically advanced than us, look into Magic Egypt. John Anthony West is the badman behind it. i found it on a torrent site.

hackman wrote:which site, klaus donas?
couldn't see any symbolism at all except for one symbol

nah i meant the archaeology website that said there's no pyramids in bosnia
http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/osmanagic/

haha saw the owl and loled