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Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:42 am
by laurent__duval
wilson wrote:Roflrilla wrote:With Matter paying a brand fee to Rinse/FWD of about £4,000, I'm sure Fabric (same group behind Matter for those that didn't know) will get first dibs in on where Rinse/FWD will end up.
No offence to The Den, but if Rinse/FWD can sell 2,600 tickets they will be better off going to a venue like Fabric or The Coronet.
But if they go to The Coronet, then any DJ's who play there will never be able to play at Fabric - ever, apparently.
How come? Rivalry?
protectionism, just to make sure that they get the exclusives.
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:55 am
by wooda916
funkstep wrote:Maybe if the drinks didn't cost so much people would have bought more...
yep
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:06 am
by Roflrilla
laurent__duval wrote:wilson wrote:Roflrilla wrote:With Matter paying a brand fee to Rinse/FWD of about £4,000, I'm sure Fabric (same group behind Matter for those that didn't know) will get first dibs in on where Rinse/FWD will end up.
No offence to The Den, but if Rinse/FWD can sell 2,600 tickets they will be better off going to a venue like Fabric or The Coronet.
But if they go to The Coronet, then any DJ's who play there will never be able to play at Fabric - ever, apparently.
How come? Rivalry?
protectionism, just to make sure that they get the exclusives.
Kinda whistleblowing here, but that's the deal, not sure forever, but it's ultimately down to the artist to decide between a venue.
If both clubs approached me, I'd choose Fabric, not because they'd pay more (probably less due to ties and friendships between promoters/dubpolice/rinse/fwd etc) than The Coronet, but theres something about the quality of the night and how genuine the music will be that I think The Coronet will never be able to deliver...
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:09 am
by laurent__duval
Roflrilla wrote:laurent__duval wrote:wilson wrote:Roflrilla wrote:With Matter paying a brand fee to Rinse/FWD of about £4,000, I'm sure Fabric (same group behind Matter for those that didn't know) will get first dibs in on where Rinse/FWD will end up.
No offence to The Den, but if Rinse/FWD can sell 2,600 tickets they will be better off going to a venue like Fabric or The Coronet.
But if they go to The Coronet, then any DJ's who play there will never be able to play at Fabric - ever, apparently.
How come? Rivalry?
protectionism, just to make sure that they get the exclusives.
Kinda whistleblowing here, but that's the deal, not sure forever, but it's ultimately down to the artist to decide between a venue.
If both clubs approached me, I'd choose Fabric, not because they'd pay more (probably less due to ties and friendships between promoters/dubpolice/rinse/fwd etc) than The Coronet, but theres something about the quality of the night and how genuine the music will be that I think The Coronet will never be able to deliver...
its not whistle blowing, as you say, fabric is the better c,lub., put on better nights. probably pay m,ore too. if i was given the choice i'd take fabric everytime. its just better uisnt it?
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:11 am
by Roflrilla
laurent__duval wrote:Roflrilla wrote:laurent__duval wrote:wilson wrote:Roflrilla wrote:With Matter paying a brand fee to Rinse/FWD of about £4,000, I'm sure Fabric (same group behind Matter for those that didn't know) will get first dibs in on where Rinse/FWD will end up.
No offence to The Den, but if Rinse/FWD can sell 2,600 tickets they will be better off going to a venue like Fabric or The Coronet.
But if they go to The Coronet, then any DJ's who play there will never be able to play at Fabric - ever, apparently.
How come? Rivalry?
protectionism, just to make sure that they get the exclusives.
Kinda whistleblowing here, but that's the deal, not sure forever, but it's ultimately down to the artist to decide between a venue.
If both clubs approached me, I'd choose Fabric, not because they'd pay more (probably less due to ties and friendships between promoters/dubpolice/rinse/fwd etc) than The Coronet, but theres something about the quality of the night and how genuine the music will be that I think The Coronet will never be able to deliver...
its not whistle blowing, as you say, fabric is the better c,lub., put on better nights. probably pay m,ore too. if i was given the choice i'd take fabric everytime. its just better uisnt it?
Depends, if you're doing music full time and it's putting food in your fridge - you'd pick the one that's more reliable and more likely to book you.
If Fabric book me for 4 nights a year and I only got to play at The Coronet once for the Outlook Launch, Fabric definitely.
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:13 am
by legend4ry
Even though the 02 is a 20 minute bus ride from my nearest bus stop (like 5 minute walk), I admit it was a shite place for a venue and even for me, a bastard to get back from in the wee hours of the morning.
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:16 am
by laurent__duval
laurent__duval wrote:Roflrilla wrote:laurent__duval wrote:wilson wrote:Roflrilla wrote:With Matter paying a brand fee to Rinse/FWD of about £4,000, I'm sure Fabric (same group behind Matter for those that didn't know) will get first dibs in on where Rinse/FWD will end up.
No offence to The Den, but if Rinse/FWD can sell 2,600 tickets they will be better off going to a venue like Fabric or The Coronet.
But if they go to The Coronet, then any DJ's who play there will never be able to play at Fabric - ever, apparently.
How come? Rivalry?
protectionism, just to make sure that they get the exclusives.
Kinda whistleblowing here, but that's the deal, not sure forever, but it's ultimately down to the artist to decide between a venue.
If both clubs approached me, I'd choose Fabric, not because they'd pay more (probably less due to ties and friendships between promoters/dubpolice/rinse/fwd etc) than The Coronet, but theres something about the quality of the night and how genuine the music will be that I think The Coronet will never be able to deliver...
its also worth baring in mind that this happens in lots of other places and clubs.
its not whistle blowing, as you say, fabric is the better c,lub., put on better nights. probably pay m,ore too. if i was given the choice i'd take fabric everytime. its just better uisnt it?
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 3:39 pm
by dafox
dont know how people can say dubstep didnt work there, room 2 was perfect for it. cant say i ever saw any dubstep in rm1.
also its not in the ass end of london, SE is the shit get to know
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 3:42 pm
by LA_Boxers
dafox wrote:dont know how people can say dubstep didnt work there, room 2 was perfect for it. cant say i ever saw any dubstep in rm1.
also its not in the ass end of london, SE is the shit get to know
Yeah room 2 smashed it every time i went there. Spent more time in there than the main room.
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:31 pm
by 2scoops
Roflrilla. you're talking shite pal. not sure where you're getting your "nuggets" of wisdom from, but you're factually well wide of the mark.
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:34 pm
by hash_keith
Matter Le Tissier
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:40 pm
by Roflrilla
2scoops wrote:Roflrilla. you're talking shite pal. not sure where you're getting your "nuggets" of wisdom from, but you're factually well wide of the mark.
I think not if it's coming pretty direct.
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:44 pm
by hash_keith
Roflrilla wrote:2scoops wrote:Roflrilla. you're talking shite pal. not sure where you're getting your "nuggets" of wisdom from, but you're factually well wide of the mark.
I think not if it's coming pretty direct.
Bollocks you slag.
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 5:33 pm
by laurent__duval
hash_keith wrote:Roflrilla wrote:2scoops wrote:Roflrilla. you're talking shite pal. not sure where you're getting your "nuggets" of wisdom from, but you're factually well wide of the mark.
I think not if it's coming pretty direct.
Bollocks you slag.
where's that comment about the IRA gone then? was it Roflrilla?
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 5:45 pm
by hash_keith
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 5:57 pm
by Roflrilla
laurent__duval wrote:hash_keith wrote:Roflrilla wrote:2scoops wrote:Roflrilla. you're talking shite pal. not sure where you're getting your "nuggets" of wisdom from, but you're factually well wide of the mark.
I think not if it's coming pretty direct.
Bollocks you slag.
where's that comment about the IRA gone then? was it Roflrilla?
No. I'd never fuck with the Irish. Start on one, start on all the whole family. Damn pikeys.
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:03 pm
by trapeez
2scoops wrote:Roflrilla. you're talking shite pal. not sure where you're getting your "nuggets" of wisdom from, but you're factually well wide of the mark.
Plastician was booked to play FWD+Rinse last month, but his set was cancelled by Matter because he played Coronet for the Outlook launch. Think he got a 3 month boycott. Roska was offered a set at the same night (Outlook) but declined because Fabric/Matter threatened him with a lifetime boycott. Similar story with Oneman aswell. This was all discussed openly on their Twitters so it ain't word of mouth/hearsay bullshit.
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:11 pm
by curse
Roflrilla wrote:
But if they go to The Coronet, then any DJ's who play there will never be able to play at Fabric - ever, apparently.
Riiiight... So if an upcoming artist booked at that FWD/Rinse ended up doing his set at the Coronet, and blew up to be a massive part of the scene, pulling in crowds like (for example) Chase and Status, Fabric would NEVER book them?
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:28 pm
by spydee
luthervandub wrote:wont miss it
never thought dubstep translated well there
it had its moments, but generally i agree that it didnt.
Re: Matter has gone bankrupt (allegedly)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 7:19 pm
by rbnc
curse wrote:Roflrilla wrote:
But if they go to The Coronet, then any DJ's who play there will never be able to play at Fabric - ever, apparently.
Riiiight... So if an upcoming artist booked at that FWD/Rinse ended up doing his set at the Coronet, and blew up to be a massive part of the scene, pulling in crowds like (for example) Chase and Status, Fabric would NEVER book them?
Pretty sure that is absolute bollocks.
