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kozee wrote:

wirez wrote:

mashmash wrote:if it wasn't for the americans, ukg would never have come about anyway

If it wasn't for the British then Americans would all be Native Indians

I don't see that as such a bad thing

Nah me neither... Maybe UKG would have a slightly different approach if so... Panpipes and slightly different drums and rattles... It's got to be done, will be experimenting with this in the future

olzord wrote:I'm proper gobsmacked, I had no idea that UKG had a US following! Fair play lads.
Needs to come back to how big it was though for definite.

As much as I like a massive dirty banger that makes you shit yourself, it'll never take away from the cool Old School vibes

The 2Step stuff really has no following over here other than in couple of cities at all. But the 93-97 4x4 stuff was just considered regular Garage/Soulful House, that just happened to be from England.

UK Garage when it really became it's own scene around 97never caught on over here, the older Garage/Soulful House heads, just found it cheesy and amateur, and the D&B, Techno, Trance, and Hard Dance crews, taught it was too R&B sounding.

UK Garage like Old Skool Jungle, got caught in that place of sounding to "Urban" for the Rave kids, and too weird for the Urban Crew.

That's why it's no coincidence that D&B did'nt really breakthrough over here till the Techstep and Bad Company sound came to the forefront.

ruckspin wrote:

s.a.m wrote:

mashmash wrote:

s.a.m wrote:

mashmash wrote:well 'uk garage on the rise' is a good thing to hear, but i'm not a fan of this future garage stuff

Yet dubstep is, technically, future garage...

yes, but i'm not on about dubstep am i

No, no you are not.

technically future garage is dubstep also...

but soon we end in a philosophical purgatory of categorisation

If you really think about Future Garage is Soulful House, but hey.

sines wrote:

prisoner wrote:

djshiva wrote:

kozee wrote:yea its big here again in the states

Really? Where? I need to be there and not here.

it's not any where.

im not sure what kozee was smoking.

the only time there was anything here was back in 00-01/02

it was actually pretty popular in minneapolis.

we had a crew of people doing big shows monthly for awhile, but it died as fast as it came.

Its here in Texas. bess recognize.

YES

hackman wrote:

grievous angel wrote:Still making 2step, just cut another 2step remix of one of Naphta's jungle rollers

if it's half as good as the soundclash one, i'm a very happy man

Yeah, it's only half as good.

The refix of ashanti's still on it is alrght though, ben ufo's played it a few times.

still play the Missy elliot Work it refix most sets.

I'll send you some links.

it's on the resurgence in SF, that's where I is... and i don't smoke btw

wirez wrote:

kozee wrote:

wirez wrote:

mashmash wrote:if it wasn't for the americans, ukg would never have come about anyway

If it wasn't for the British then Americans would all be Native Indians

I don't see that as such a bad thing

Nah me neither... Maybe UKG would have a slightly different approach if so... Panpipes and slightly different drums and rattles... It's got to be done, will be experimenting with this in the future

hahah word!

I kind of like some of this new garage-type stuff, like Joy Orbison and Mount Kimbie, but generally speaking, I think a lot of UK Garage is boring. Like when I heard that mix, none of the songs really stood out to me, except "Hyph Mngo". Also, I keep confusing UKG with UGK, and that angers me.

the levels of ignorance are high in this thread

ukg seems to be popular in spain, mostly the rnb 2-step stuff.

kozee wrote:it's on the resurgence in SF, that's where I is... and i don't smoke btw

was only joking ; )

if i speak honestly i'd argue that UKG is dead (at least in it's original incarnation), so I'm kind of wondering what's being played?

is it locked on/zed bias/mj cole etc etc stuff?

or are we talking just the 2step influenced side of dubstep (hessle audio/whistla/joy orbison/etc)?

i always try to play some of the old stuff, but usually just ends with the floor clearing : (

Seattle has a regular (monthly I believe) club night devoted to UKG and UKG-influenced stuff - an event called "Full Blast". Been going for well over a year now.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gi ... 520&ref=ts

grievous angel wrote:

hackman wrote:

grievous angel wrote:Still making 2step, just cut another 2step remix of one of Naphta's jungle rollers

if it's half as good as the soundclash one, i'm a very happy man

Yeah, it's only half as good.

The refix of ashanti's still on it is alrght though, ben ufo's played it a few times.

still play the Missy elliot Work it refix most sets.

I'll send you some links.

wickeeed

Just hope it doesn't end with remixing pop tunes...

please God

prisoner wrote:

kozee wrote:it's on the resurgence in SF, that's where I is... and i don't smoke btw

was only joking ; )

if i speak honestly i'd argue that UKG is dead (at least in it's original incarnation), so I'm kind of wondering what's being played?

is it locked on/zed bias/mj cole etc etc stuff?

or are we talking just the 2step influenced side of dubstep (hessle audio/whistla/joy orbison/etc)?

i always try to play some of the old stuff, but usually just ends with the floor clearing : (

It's the Zed Bias/El-B/MJ Cole stuff that's getting a revival a the moment.

we'll that's cool.

to me it's easily some of the funnest music to dance too so it'd be nice if there was a lil revival.

i'm not sure there's enough support where i live though.

people have either moved completely on or are too young to remember it.