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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:47 pm
by sand leaper
Intoccabile wrote:It's a fun, upbeat and mindless wobbler, with a top end that reminds me of TC's recent output.
I thought about TC as well when I heard this. Stupid and mindless wobble fun for the whole family which serves its purpose, but that's about it as far as I'm concerned.
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:17 pm
by cody
Second drop is large.
lot of hate here. whats wrong with the odd banger?
to me its a very different kind of wobble than say, 'punisher' pinch or loefah/coki halfstep wobbler.
if heads think they can do better, stop bitching and get on it.
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:02 pm
by Jubz
Be nice if people could criticise without sounding condescending.
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:21 pm
by jim
The condescension is quite funny. Wonder how people's brains can convince them that an uptembo banger is necessarily more "mindless" than say something slower and more subtle. Upbeat and good for dancing to = dumb. Ethereal and good for sitting about scratching your chin to = smart?

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:34 pm
by sand leaper
jim wrote:Wonder how people's brains can convince them that an uptembo banger is necessarily more "mindless" than say something slower and more subtle.
As far as I can see, nobody has claimed this, so you're making a strawman argument.
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:45 pm
by jim
Could have fooled me.
Edit: That sounds a bit cheeky! All I meant was that people are dismissing it and calling it things like "stupid" and "mindless" while not making any specific criticisms of it and only mentioning that it is a "banger" and "fun" therefore leading me to think that they are dismissing this track as purely being utilitarian, gebrauchsmusik for dancing to type thing. I'm not trying to put words in anybody's mouth, just going with what I'm reading and making some perhaps unwarrented extrapolations.
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:17 pm
by jason burns
wtf?
now im kinda new to this dubstep shite. but so far my impression was that it was just supposed to be fun. kind of an alternative to d'n'b which has become decidedly not so fun. in large part due to the same type of elitist snobbery displayed in this thread.

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:48 pm
by sand leaper
jim wrote:
Edit: That sounds a bit cheeky! All I meant was that people are dismissing it and calling it things like "stupid" and "mindless" while not making any specific criticisms of it and only mentioning that it is a "banger" and "fun" therefore leading me to think that they are dismissing this track as purely being utilitarian, gebrauchsmusik for dancing to type thing. I'm not trying to put words in anybody's mouth, just going with what I'm reading and making some perhaps unwarrented extrapolations.
I think the point people are trying to make is that this tune is a painfully typical wobble banger that Skream has done many times before, which indeed has little use other than feeding the dancefloor. The "mindless" and "stupid" comes from how the tune is very obvious and in your face, much like the aforementioned TC and his wobble output.
There isn't anything wrong with making fun and silly dancefloor tunes like these per se (particularly when Skream experiments as much as he does otherwise). I think people just get a bit annoyed when it is claimed that this is Skream at his best and so on, since a) too much wobble is never good and b) Skream has much more to offer than his usual LFO bangers.
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:09 pm
by Jubz
jason burns wrote:wtf?
now im kinda new to this dubstep shite. but so far my impression was that it was just supposed to be fun. kind of an alternative to d'n'b which has become decidedly not so fun. in large part due to the same type of elitist snobbery displayed in this thread.

A FUCKING MEN BROTHER.
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:25 pm
by signus
How is this tune not FAT?
Lovin all of Skream's output at the moment, he's dabblin in everything from dark side stompers to techy faster stuff to wobbly bizniz like this to the lighter stuff like the new Ringo release (is it called watching clocks, or clock watching? I forget.)
Skream = Don
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:08 am
by *decibella~~
Signus wrote:How is this tune not FAT?
Lovin all of Skream's output at the moment, he's dabblin in everything from dark side stompers to techy faster stuff to wobbly bizniz like this to the lighter stuff like the new Ringo release (is it called watching clocks, or clock watching? I forget.)
Skream = Don
Clock Watching is by LD?? the other side was skream 'Assumptions' remix.
But i agreee with what your sayin too bruv, skream is versatile.
LOL @ some of the posts in this thread tho, jeeez 'its not his best work' LMAO its a banging tune, full of vibes, that would go off on the dancefloor, appriciate it for what it is.
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:49 am
by ytee
It's good....but not my favorite of the year or anything....that so far belongs to "Scotty"...not sure what all the hates about though....sounds like a jungle forum....

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:50 am
by signus
*DeCiBella~~ wrote:
Clock Watching is by LD?? the other side was skream 'Assumptions' remix.
Ah right I assumed both sides were Skream, and my tp has no info on it. CHeers DeCi

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:14 am
by elgato
jason burns wrote:wtf?
now im kinda new to this dubstep shite. but so far my impression was that it was just supposed to be fun. kind of an alternative to d'n'b which has become decidedly not so fun. in large part due to the same type of elitist snobbery displayed in this thread.

it certainly isnt just 'kind of an alternative to dnb'! ridiculous
dubstep is clearly about fun, but its also always (to me) been about experimentation, and exploration of new sounds, moods, rhythms, dynamics etc.
i can see the irritation about some of the attitudes tho, i agree its not about that.
Skream is still the man to be fair, when he hits the mark hardly anyone can touch him, and he can in all fairness do what he likes. which is why i dont chat ill of him even if im not personally feeling the tune
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:08 pm
by frodo
ytee wrote:...not sure what all the hates about though....sounds like a jungle forum....
My thoughts exactly. I've experienced this forum as pretty much "hate free" since I joined it but it looks like things are changing.
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:49 pm
by jason burns
elgato wrote:jason burns wrote:wtf?
it certainly isnt just 'kind of an alternative to dnb'! ridiculous
to say that dubstep is JUST an alternative to d'n'b would be an understatement for sure. and not a statement i would make. just meant that it has a lot in common to d'n'b.
skleream!
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:05 pm
by boney
Big track ...it's caused quite a stir!!
I prefer that 'moving snares' that he played on rinse the other week?
Anyone know anything about that one?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:12 pm
by harlesden
oh dear
what have I started

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:32 pm
by captain easychord
audio or STFU
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:38 pm
by ytee
captain easychord wrote:audio or STFU
It's on the first page.