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Will my ortofons destroy acetate?

charliefoy wrote:Will my ortofons destroy acetate?

Providing they are fairly new and you have a light weight setup on your tone arm then it should be fine. Don't do what I stupidly did, got a dub cut and played it on my 1210 that was still setup for scratching with a shot Shure M44 needle with maximum weight applied on the tone arm. I played it once and it cut new lines in the grooves by the time it got to the end. Total fail Had to get another one cut, you learn the hard way I guess. As people keep saying, it does smell AMAZING.

Here's the re-cut, still haven't bought a new needle yet!



This is the track:

Soundcloud

Yeah I read that its a myth about ortofons wrecking records, cause ortofons are really light, thats why you need 4g of weight whereas 44's are heavier, thus only needing a couple of grams.

I cut dubs as much as possible and have done 100% dubplate sets from time to time, which is definitely the most fun I've had DJing.
£30 isn't expensive for two tunes if you love them, imo

pete bubonic wrote:I do, living in Bristol there's more options than a lot of places. dubstudio.co.uk is a great place with dedicated workers and low prices.

Can you actually go to the Dub Studio premises and watch them master/cut the 10"? I've always wondered this. Not that I live in Bristol anyway, but would love to see what they get up to if I'm ever up there shortly after payday.

£10 Bag wrote:I cut dubs as much as possible and have done 100% dubplate sets from time to time, which is definitely the most fun I've had DJing.
£30 isn't expensive for two tunes if you love them, imo

pete bubonic wrote:I do, living in Bristol there's more options than a lot of places. dubstudio.co.uk is a great place with dedicated workers and low prices.

Can you actually go to the Dub Studio premises and watch them master/cut the 10"? I've always wondered this. Not that I live in Bristol anyway, but would love to see what they get up to if I'm ever up there shortly after payday.

Exactly, its not that expensive if you think about it. If you want to play out tunes and you use digital, you need to get them mastered. Dub studio charge £15 per track (I think), so two tracks is £30. So getting them on dub doesn't really make a difference, just depending on what format you chose to play.

£10 Bag wrote: £30 isn't expensive for two tunes if you love them, imo

This. I take ages writing tunes so to have a two track release on a dub at £15 per song to me is well worth the effort and is a nice reward. Its the final end of the entire process, from the first musical idea to the finished product. Something to hold on to when I'm old and deaf. The physical medium

Promise One wrote:

£10 Bag wrote: £30 isn't expensive for two tunes if you love them, imo

This. I take ages writing tunes so to have a two track release on a dub at £15 per song to me is well worth the effort and is a nice reward. Its the final end of the entire process, from the first musical idea to the finished product. Something to hold on to when I'm old and deaf. The physical medium

This!

To everyone that does cut dubs, what do you prefer?
10/12 inch vinyl or 10/12 inch acetate?

Since getting serato, my dub cutting budget has gone. But I heard you can get the serato timecode cut to dub

charliefoy wrote:To everyone that does cut dubs, what do you prefer?
10/12 inch vinyl or 10/12 inch acetate?

I've only cut one and it's a 12" Apollo acetate from Precise Mastering. Well recommended. They've done Hessle Audio, Hemlock, Hot Flush etc. I know everyone bangs on about Transition but I've used them before and I had to ask for them to re-do a track as it didn't match the rest of the EP sonically. Turns out they used two different engineers on the same project No no no I had to choose a 12" over the 10" due to the track length. Also I think the more sub bass you have, the wider the grooves are cut to accommodate the low frequencies which in turn takes up more space on the dub (I think).

I am good at dropping them.

Promise One wrote:

charliefoy wrote:To everyone that does cut dubs, what do you prefer?
10/12 inch vinyl or 10/12 inch acetate?

I've only cut one and it's a 12" Apollo acetate from Precise Mastering. Well recommended. They've done Hessle Audio, Hemlock, Hot Flush etc. I know everyone bangs on about Transition but I've used them before and I had to ask for them to re-do a track as it didn't match the rest of the EP sonically. Turns out they used two different engineers on the same project No no no I had to choose a 12" over the 10" due to the track length. Also I think the more sub bass you have, the wider the grooves are cut to accommodate the low frequencies which in turn takes up more space on the dub (I think).

How much did that cost? Dubstudio is £40 for a 12 inch vinyl or acetate

I don't really rate Transition, a lot of my peers bang on about them and I'm sure they're all wonderful guys and that. But I find when listening to their work a similar approach is applied to all of their mastering. IE: make it loud and crispy for bangers in the club. Which obviously works for the original dubstep guys that were going there. but when I heard shackleton tunes before and after, I preferred the subtleties and softness of the premaster. I've got stuff mastered at Masterpiece and Optimum and both were real good, Beau at Masterpiece has been particularly helpful and just a genuine stand out guy. but neither of those places are cheap.

pete bubonic wrote:I don't really rate Transition, a lot of my peers bang on about them and I'm sure they're all wonderful guys and that. But I find when listening to their work a similar approach is applied to all of their mastering. IE: make it loud and crispy for bangers in the club. Which obviously works for the original dubstep guys that were going there. but when I heard shackleton tunes before and after, I preferred the subtleties and softness of the premaster. I've got stuff mastered at Masterpiece and Optimum and both were real good, Beau at Masterpiece has been particularly helpful and just a genuine stand out guy. but neither of those places are cheap.

How come you stopped cutting man?

Tho this was a long time ago, no doubt they got new people in there and new approaches to work.



Charliefoy - got serato, couldn't really afford to keep getting dubs without regular bookings.

charliefoy wrote:

Promise One wrote:

charliefoy wrote:To everyone that does cut dubs, what do you prefer?
10/12 inch vinyl or 10/12 inch acetate?

I've only cut one and it's a 12" Apollo acetate from Precise Mastering. Well recommended. They've done Hessle Audio, Hemlock, Hot Flush etc. I know everyone bangs on about Transition but I've used them before and I had to ask for them to re-do a track as it didn't match the rest of the EP sonically. Turns out they used two different engineers on the same project No no no I had to choose a 12" over the 10" due to the track length. Also I think the more sub bass you have, the wider the grooves are cut to accommodate the low frequencies which in turn takes up more space on the dub (I think).

How much did that cost? Dubstudio is £40 for a 12 inch vinyl or acetate

I've just dug the invoice out and its actually quite alot more than I remember it being!!! 12" dubplate is £45 for mastering and cutting. However I wanted the mastered WAVs too so that's an extra £30 per track. DAMN this shit is expensive. Was about 7 months ago and I'm nearly ready with another two track release so thinking in that time scale it isn't too bad.

Promise One wrote:

charliefoy wrote:

Promise One wrote:

charliefoy wrote:To everyone that does cut dubs, what do you prefer?
10/12 inch vinyl or 10/12 inch acetate?

I've only cut one and it's a 12" Apollo acetate from Precise Mastering. Well recommended. They've done Hessle Audio, Hemlock, Hot Flush etc. I know everyone bangs on about Transition but I've used them before and I had to ask for them to re-do a track as it didn't match the rest of the EP sonically. Turns out they used two different engineers on the same project No no no I had to choose a 12" over the 10" due to the track length. Also I think the more sub bass you have, the wider the grooves are cut to accommodate the low frequencies which in turn takes up more space on the dub (I think).

How much did that cost? Dubstudio is £40 for a 12 inch vinyl or acetate

I've just dug the invoice out and its actually quite alot more than I remember it being!!! 12" dubplate is £45 for mastering and cutting. However I wanted the mastered WAVs too so that's an extra £30 per track. DAMN this shit is expensive. Was about 7 months ago and I'm nearly ready with another two track release so thinking in that time scale it isn't too bad.

Ahhh I hope I get the wavs back at dubstudio so i can send it to people who use homophobe. cd's (joke haha).

charliefoy wrote:

Promise One wrote:

charliefoy wrote:

Promise One wrote:

charliefoy wrote:To everyone that does cut dubs, what do you prefer?
10/12 inch vinyl or 10/12 inch acetate?

I've only cut one and it's a 12" Apollo acetate from Precise Mastering. Well recommended. They've done Hessle Audio, Hemlock, Hot Flush etc. I know everyone bangs on about Transition but I've used them before and I had to ask for them to re-do a track as it didn't match the rest of the EP sonically. Turns out they used two different engineers on the same project No no no I had to choose a 12" over the 10" due to the track length. Also I think the more sub bass you have, the wider the grooves are cut to accommodate the low frequencies which in turn takes up more space on the dub (I think).

How much did that cost? Dubstudio is £40 for a 12 inch vinyl or acetate

I've just dug the invoice out and its actually quite alot more than I remember it being!!! 12" dubplate is £45 for mastering and cutting. However I wanted the mastered WAVs too so that's an extra £30 per track. DAMN this shit is expensive. Was about 7 months ago and I'm nearly ready with another two track release so thinking in that time scale it isn't too bad.

Ahhh I hope I get the wavs back at dubstudio so i can send it to people who use Hi, I'm a homophobe. cd's (joke haha).

You don't unless you pay for them. Pretty sure once they've been cut, they're deleted from the systems unless you ask/pay for them. Which is only fair seeing as they're being mastered for you too. Dubstudio are good. My plates sound fucking ridiculous.

Anyone notice that Transition charge twice the shipping Dubstudio do? I'm aware that they are in London not Bristol, but I'd thought that'd make it cheaper if anything. What's up with that? I'd end up paying NZ$100 for a 10"!

Not all postal services are created equal it seems. On a completely different note, I <3 this thread.