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Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:39 pm
by jaydot
I need a new DAW/synth I think. I'm bored of Ableton/Massive especially since Ableton has suddenly stopped scanning for my VSTs.

Suggestions?

Thanks for the advice btw everyone I knew I wasn't in a different boat I just need to be reassured. I've just uploaded my last track for maybe two weeks or something. I'm gonna read more on production instead of doing in and get back to my poetry also.

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:14 pm
by Mysius
Try a demo of Reason. Might get you into having fun with sounds, routing, learning something new. Plus if you like it you can rewire into Ableton

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:31 pm
by ponte_ricky
matthewcradduck wrote:it will pass man, dont produce anything for a week or less then come back to it.
best advie in my opinion, i got like this and just totally left it alone for a while and just did some reading and stuff. now i feel creative again

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:46 pm
by jaydot
JT7 wrote:Try a demo of Reason. Might get you into having fun with sounds, routing, learning something new. Plus if you like it you can rewire into Ableton
Yeah I might, cheers for the suggestion. Whats it like compared to Ableton?

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:33 pm
by Mysius
A different animal all together. But that is why some people like rewiring the two together.

i guess you have been laying down drums with audio? You could try using Redrum and the step sequencer to see what you can throw together, it might be more intuitive.

Being able to see a rack of units may help you to be more creative and be inspiring, sometimes when using a fully fledged DAW i miss the visual side of seeing things strung together.

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:09 pm
by toreador
@jaydot

first of all i want to apologise for making an overly cuntish post

but maybe what's lacking in your production is some constructive criticism

you see this tune?


the track in your sig, IMO, is the dubstep equivalent of the above tune

awkward and rhythmically challenged

i dont know how anyone could vibes to it, in fact i can see it emptying a dancefloor

just to re-iterate what other people have already said, you should forget about dubstep for a while and listen to different music, go to some gigs if possible / watch some live bands on youtube (rock, funk, soul, whatever). go clubbing, even if its some bait tiger tiger night, and see what makes people move.

then when your ready to get back to producing show your tracks to your friends and ask them what they honestly think

also you're either smoking too much weed or not enough, i dont know which

and also if you really think that track in your sig represents you at your production peak, then you're deluded and making music isnt for u. i'm sorry but it has to be said

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:34 pm
by JemGrover
toreador wrote:

you see this tune?


Serious vibes.

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:06 pm
by narcissus
jaydot wrote:I need a new DAW/synth I think. I'm bored of Ableton/Massive especially since Ableton has suddenly stopped scanning for my VSTs.
oohhh dear... i DO feel sorry for you... if ableton ever became boring to me, I would have to shoot myself..

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:01 pm
by jaydot
toreador wrote:@jaydot

first of all i want to apologise for making an overly cuntish post

but maybe what's lacking in your production is some constructive criticism

you see this tune?


the track in your sig, IMO, is the dubstep equivalent of the above tune

awkward and rhythmically challenged

i dont know how anyone could vibes to it, in fact i can see it emptying a dancefloor

just to re-iterate what other people have already said, you should forget about dubstep for a while and listen to different music, go to some gigs if possible / watch some live bands on youtube (rock, funk, soul, whatever). go clubbing, even if its some bait tiger tiger night, and see what makes people move.

then when your ready to get back to producing show your tracks to your friends and ask them what they honestly think

also you're either smoking too much weed or not enough, i dont know which

and also if you really think that track in your sig represents you at your production peak, then you're deluded and making music isnt for u. i'm sorry but it has to be said
What a wanker, Making music is for ANYBODY that enjoys it. You can't just exclude people from the genre or from production altogether just because YOU don't like what they're making. It's presumtious and rude of you

I don't smoke weed. You can't smoke "not enough". If you don't touch it you don't touch it, It doesn't affect your production skills, maybbe you've done too much whacky baccy and are a bit deluded yourself?

ALSO, the track that was in my sig isn't dancefloor standard. No one said it was. It's a new thing to me is drumstep and I'm just experimenting and having a bit of a fun, not taking it too serious. That's what it's about isn't it, or am I mistaken,
one track isn't representative of a person's whole repertoire.

Lastly, post your soundcloud?

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:05 pm
by nitz
Don't foucs on making music for a few weeks or so.

Do something else : sports, social event, outgoings, day trips. Anything about music for a while to get your mind detracted from making any worrying about it.

Eat and sleep week, no junk food,healthy nutritious food and plenty of sleep.

This all in turn, is to refresh your self and your mind.

Try it.

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:48 am
by toreador
jaydot wrote:
toreador wrote:@jaydot

first of all i want to apologise for making an overly cuntish post

but maybe what's lacking in your production is some constructive criticism

you see this tune?


the track in your sig, IMO, is the dubstep equivalent of the above tune

awkward and rhythmically challenged

i dont know how anyone could vibes to it, in fact i can see it emptying a dancefloor

just to re-iterate what other people have already said, you should forget about dubstep for a while and listen to different music, go to some gigs if possible / watch some live bands on youtube (rock, funk, soul, whatever). go clubbing, even if its some bait tiger tiger night, and see what makes people move.

then when your ready to get back to producing show your tracks to your friends and ask them what they honestly think

also you're either smoking too much weed or not enough, i dont know which

and also if you really think that track in your sig represents you at your production peak, then you're deluded and making music isnt for u. i'm sorry but it has to be said
What a wanker, Making music is for ANYBODY that enjoys it. You can't just exclude people from the genre or from production altogether just because YOU don't like what they're making. It's presumtious and rude of you

I don't smoke weed. You can't smoke "not enough". If you don't touch it you don't touch it, It doesn't affect your production skills, maybbe you've done too much whacky baccy and are a bit deluded yourself?

ALSO, the track that was in my sig isn't dancefloor standard. No one said it was. It's a new thing to me is drumstep and I'm just experimenting and having a bit of a fun, not taking it too serious. That's what it's about isn't it, or am I mistaken,
one track isn't representative of a person's whole repertoire.

Lastly, post your soundcloud?
where did i say you should be excluded?

i was responding to the thread. not passing judgement on your worth as a music maker. you said you felt you reached your production peak and i took the track in ur sig as an example of your output. why should i bother listening through all your repertoire when you've chosen to showcase your talent in your signature.

i don't care for soundcloud

ps lol @ whacky baccy

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:19 am
by grooki
do I smell something... in the air?

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:22 am
by deadly_habit
grooki wrote:do I smell something... in the air?
Image

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:21 am
by jaydot
toreador wrote:
jaydot wrote:
toreador wrote:@jaydot

first of all i want to apologise for making an overly cuntish post

but maybe what's lacking in your production is some constructive criticism

you see this tune?


the track in your sig, IMO, is the dubstep equivalent of the above tune

awkward and rhythmically challenged

i dont know how anyone could vibes to it, in fact i can see it emptying a dancefloor

just to re-iterate what other people have already said, you should forget about dubstep for a while and listen to different music, go to some gigs if possible / watch some live bands on youtube (rock, funk, soul, whatever). go clubbing, even if its some bait tiger tiger night, and see what makes people move.

then when your ready to get back to producing show your tracks to your friends and ask them what they honestly think

also you're either smoking too much weed or not enough, i dont know which

and also if you really think that track in your sig represents you at your production peak, then you're deluded and making music isnt for u. i'm sorry but it has to be said
What a wanker, Making music is for ANYBODY that enjoys it. You can't just exclude people from the genre or from production altogether just because YOU don't like what they're making. It's presumtious and rude of you

I don't smoke weed. You can't smoke "not enough". If you don't touch it you don't touch it, It doesn't affect your production skills, maybbe you've done too much whacky baccy and are a bit deluded yourself?

ALSO, the track that was in my sig isn't dancefloor standard. No one said it was. It's a new thing to me is drumstep and I'm just experimenting and having a bit of a fun, not taking it too serious. That's what it's about isn't it, or am I mistaken,
one track isn't representative of a person's whole repertoire.

Lastly, post your soundcloud?
where did i say you should be excluded?

i was responding to the thread. not passing judgement on your worth as a music maker. you said you felt you reached your production peak and i took the track in ur sig as an example of your output. why should i bother listening through all your repertoire when you've chosen to showcase your talent in your signature.

i don't care for soundcloud

ps lol @ whacky baccy
If you re-read the original post, when I said I had "reached my peak" I did say I meant for my own capability and not in general. In retrospect I'm probably wrong and I know in my heart of hearts I can and will improve ten-fold, just like I have been doing all along anyway.

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:45 am
by narcissus
BATTLE!!!

nah.. stop the defensive vibes guys.. he didn't mean no disrespect jaydot... or maybe he did... but fuck him, he's a troll

and @ toreador, the dude's trying his best, no need to add to his frustration..

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:53 am
by rdubz
Hey fella, I've been here so many times before I can't even count, truth is it will pass, things I've tried and that have worked for me in the past have been leave production for a while, ask ur mates what their fav albums are atm and if u haven't heard it then check it out (check caribou - swim, a mate recommended that to me couple days ago, good stuff) , if ur stuck in a set of chords then pick a tune that has a different structure and play along until u know those then piss about in them, go to a rave for inspiration, if that don't work then goto a festival as that should it, change the method of production and if u usually use plugins then grab a shit load of new samples and make a sample based tune instead, I think the main reason I would have a block is because I had nothing to say in mind, so thinking of things that had pissed me off or made me happy in the past would be good grounds for ideas, it's all expression mate so do something that makes u feel different enough to wanna talk about it.

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:14 pm
by daft cunt
deadly habit wrote:
grooki wrote:do I smell something... in the air?
Image
What movie is that ?

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:03 pm
by deadly_habit
daft tnuc wrote:
deadly habit wrote:
grooki wrote:do I smell something... in the air?
Image
What movie is that ?
shame on you!
one of the greatest movies ever!

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:16 pm
by mks
What movie is that?? I saw that movie years ago but can't remember what it is.

@ JayDot, all creative people go through phases and cycles. It is just how it is. Like other people have said, try making other styles of music or perhaps go out into nature. I actually really need to do that myself, been stuck in the city for too long...

Re: A stage of disillusion

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:36 pm
by deadly_habit