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firky wrote:

danrev wrote:i just dont like jimmy mcnulty

you're not supposed to, he's a dick. if you did like him I'd question yourself

are you serious? Got nothing but love for him! at the end of the day he's GOOD POLICE

Sick new episode, good start to series 2 prediction right here - Eli to betray the Commodore and go back to Nucky by the end of the series

Awesome ending to the second season, HBO get it right every time.

symmetricalsounds wrote:

danrev wrote:

symmetricalsounds wrote:

danrev wrote:already seen the whole thing.


its very good, probably the best first series I've seen of a hbo thingy.


Whether it lives up to sopranos and wire I dunno yet but so far so good.

easily betters sopranos, nowhere near as good as the wire.

didnt rate first series of wire too much

if you didn't rate it as soon as the first conversation featuring mcNulty and the kid on the step then i feel sorry for ya man.

well said. Because of scenes like that I think season 1 is in some ways the best

incredible season! can't wait for season 3.

murky21 wrote:

symmetricalsounds wrote:

danrev wrote:

symmetricalsounds wrote:

danrev wrote:already seen the whole thing.


its very good, probably the best first series I've seen of a hbo thingy.


Whether it lives up to sopranos and wire I dunno yet but so far so good.

easily betters sopranos, nowhere near as good as the wire.

didnt rate first series of wire too much

if you didn't rate it as soon as the first conversation featuring mcNulty and the kid on the step then i feel sorry for ya man.

well said. Because of scenes like that I think season 1 is in some ways the best

Season 4 and seasons 2 always hold a place in my heart. I hated season 2 at first but it ended up growing in to one of the best stories ever. I found it a lot more depressing and cold than other seasons.

"it all counts" - lester freamon

i can't really seperate between series cos it's just this big amalgamation of awesomeness.

shit is gonna go down about eli lying like that next season. it'll all come out

^ After the convo him and Nucky had on the front porch, it seemed Nucky might know Eli was lying, the way he ended it saying it could've been worse for him and all. IDK though, guess we'll have to wait a few months.

I also watched Wire all at once, so I don't know how I'm going to be able to wait for the next season to find out what happens.

See now, I would have had her clipped instead of marrying her.
Shame about Jimmy - sick character. Allow the oedipal leanings though.

I watched a about 8 episdoes of the first season but stopped cause I got into madmen proper, need to catch up!

cityzen wrote:See now, I would have had her clipped instead of marrying her.
Shame about Jimmy - sick character. Allow the oedipal leanings though.

I thought he sucked. I started to empathize with him more towards the end when they were showing his family history, but overall, he was really disgusting. He was such a terrible leader, I'm surprised he didn't get clapped sooner. The Oedipus complex was straight trippy, though

absolutely fantastic program.

pikeymobile wrote:

murky21 wrote:

symmetricalsounds wrote:

danrev wrote:

symmetricalsounds wrote:already seen the whole thing.


its very good, probably the best first series I've seen of a hbo thingy.


Whether it lives up to sopranos and wire I dunno yet but so far so good.

easily betters sopranos, nowhere near as good as the wire.

didnt rate first series of wire too much

if you didn't rate it as soon as the first conversation featuring mcNulty and the kid on the step then i feel sorry for ya man.

well said. Because of scenes like that I think season 1 is in some ways the best

Season 4 and seasons 2 always hold a place in my heart. I hated season 2 at first but it ended up growing in to one of the best stories ever. I found it a lot more depressing and cold than other seasons.[/quote]


Did anybody else want to find the actor who played kenard and actually kill him after season 5?

still dont buy that the Wire is better TV than The Soprano's

The Wire is like a well written essay

The Soprano's is a finely crafted Manuscript

there's basically one level to The Wire, The Soprano's goes deep on di dubz

noam wrote:still dont buy that the Wire is better TV than The Soprano's

The Wire is like a well written essay

The Soprano's is a finely crafted Manuscript

there's basically one level to The Wire, The Soprano's goes deep on di dubz

I haven't seen that much of the sopranos, but in regards to the wire, It gets really deep. It's nowhere near your simple crime drama. It's not a simple, cops are good, dealers are bad kind of show. Every season they go at a different REAL issue (corrupt unions, politicians, public school system). It seems to me that sapranos is more of a mafioso style show (from what I've seen at least) whereas The Wire actually conveys a ton of different messages. You're left really being able to empathize and even sympathize with almost every character, protaganist and antagonist alike. Not to mention the production team they had on it. And it's about a city I live right next to, so there's some nestalgia (albeit misplaced) in that too!

noam wrote:still dont buy that the Wire is better TV than The Soprano's

The Wire is like a well written essay

The Soprano's is a finely crafted Manuscript

there's basically one level to The Wire, The Soprano's goes deep on di dubz

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?

sopranos is wack in comparison.

The Soprano's > The Wire.

symmetricalsounds wrote:

noam wrote:still dont buy that the Wire is better TV than The Soprano's

The Wire is like a well written essay

The Soprano's is a finely crafted Manuscript

there's basically one level to The Wire, The Soprano's goes deep on di dubz

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?

sopranos is wack in comparison.

i mean its all down to personal taste at the end of it, its entertainment, whatever entertains you more is what you like the most... to call the soprano's whack in comparison to the wire kind of suggests that most of the Soprano's went over your head though

The Wire is great, The Soprano's is AWESOME, literally, its pretty much unrivalled for character depth. I dont think television or film has ever really had a character exposed and dissected in such fantastic detail as Tony Soprano. The shows theme's transcend every boundary set by conventional gangster/mob story's binging i right up to sit alongside The Godfather as pinnacles of their respective fields.

The Wire was a great expose' of a city, all its layers were neatly dissected and we experienced them through a variety of different characters, by the end of The Wire both it and The Soprano's had put in great claims to be the best tv shows ever made, but I think The Soprano's just went that bit further with the writing, i mean, it was able to because of how the show was set out... which is why i say the Wire is a well written essay, and the Soprano's a finely crafted manuscript: The Wire is like an exercise in specifically the political science of American cities; The Soprano's is an analysis of the psychology of modern western society, specifically America post-Freud.

noam wrote: its pretty much unrivalled for character depth.

lol i think the characters in sopranos are paper thin tbh, no depth at all. tony is just a dick, there's nothing more to him than the occasional pretence of not being a dick, also massive LOLZ@it going over my head.