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ashley wrote:

joe muggs wrote:

ashley wrote:Grime can't save us from anything.

Should have died long time ago.

ELL OH ELL

Whys it funny?

Grime, like 'brostep' is hardly intelligent music, only thing that Grime has going for it is a few decent artists with clever lyrics like P Money who are actually on a Dubstep tip rofl.

It serves a purpose, a good solid bunch of producers have come through recently and they are starting to understand that they need bookings/events for there music to even survive - which is good for grime! its in a much better place than it was a few years ago i'd say....

old grime (2003-2005 ish) is The One. Such a shame the way the scene went but yeh I'm bare boosted about all these new releases comin thru too! I've always played grime n dubstep from when dubstep wasnt a word n pple just called it grime lol.


It's all garage really.

The instrumentals could provide some push away from wobble bangers but the sad fact is that American culture is always going to dismiss english mcs & therefore grime can never get the same number of followers as dubstep. a real fucking shame as there is so much quality hidden in grime.

that said I really dis-enjoy the grime spitting over hard dubstep... P Money - Left the Room is for instance one that never quite clicked for me... I want to see more stuff next year along the lines of Ghetts' Don't Phone Me. Not a particularly charming or clever song but it goddamn moves.

fuck double post

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badger wrote: if anything is going to save us from "brostep" then it's other genres influencing the sound which is something that it's quite obvious the people that like "brostep" aren't interested in.

No offense to you man but this is probably the dumbest thing I've read in a good minute.

The number one gripe about 'brostep' is bringing neuro/hip hop/screw/skullstep/etc into the dubstep arena. The very essence of what you call brostep is that someone took your precious dubstep and added outside influences to it. Might not be the influences you like, but that's exactly what it is.

Roots dubstep seems to think if brostep/tearout/glitch/whateverthefuck didn't exist, that their army of followers would be larger. That simply isn't true. Dubstep was well established before tearout started getting big. You didn't manage to tap into that fanbase at that time.... people obviously heard it and it wasn't their bag. Tearout tapped into a new market that was completely unrelated to the roots dubstep scene.

People need to honestly stop comparing the two at all. At this point it's like comparing Deep House to Prog or Tech House. They're two entirely different scenes with absolutely nothing to do with each other outside the 5 letters at the end.

pkay wrote:

badger wrote: if anything is going to save us from "brostep" then it's other genres influencing the sound which is something that it's quite obvious the people that like "brostep" aren't interested in.

No offense to you man but this is probably the dumbest thing I've read in a good minute.
The number one gripe about 'brostep' is bringing neuro/hip hop/screw/skullstep/etc into the dubstep arena.

I'm a Neurofunk/Darkstep/Skullstep or what ever dj as well as playing dubstep. and I sure as fuck don't play dr p or "brostep".

the problem is fucking idiots like brostep, not hard dnb guys

wolf89 wrote:

pkay wrote:

badger wrote: if anything is going to save us from "brostep" then it's other genres influencing the sound which is something that it's quite obvious the people that like "brostep" aren't interested in.

No offense to you man but this is probably the dumbest thing I've read in a good minute.
The number one gripe about 'brostep' is bringing neuro/hip hop/screw/skullstep/etc into the dubstep arena.

I'm a Neurofunk/Darkstep/Skullstep or what ever dj as well as playing dubstep. and I sure as fuck don't play dr p or "brostep".

the problem is fucking idiots like brostep, not hard dnb guys

god I hate brostep but you really are the worst..

rayman612 wrote:
Could be true

was just about to post this then spotted you beat me to it. grime and dubstep can go hand in hand beeeautifully

ammo wrote:old grime (2003-2005 ish) is The One. Such a shame the way the scene went but yeh I'm bare boosted about all these new releases comin thru too! I've always played grime n dubstep from when dubstep wasnt a word n pple just called it grime lol.


It's all garage really.

im with this guy


also, instrumentals ftw

wolf89 wrote:

pkay wrote:

badger wrote: if anything is going to save us from "brostep" then it's other genres influencing the sound which is something that it's quite obvious the people that like "brostep" aren't interested in.

No offense to you man but this is probably the dumbest thing I've read in a good minute.
The number one gripe about 'brostep' is bringing neuro/hip hop/screw/skullstep/etc into the dubstep arena.

I'm a Neurofunk/Darkstep/Skullstep or what ever dj as well as playing dubstep. and I sure as fuck don't play dr p or "brostep".

the problem is fucking idiots like brostep, not hard dnb guys

please re-read what I wrote. I made no statement of anything slighting hard dnb guys. I helped run Mindsaw for fucks sake, not slighting the sound at all.

Just negating the argument Badger made by bringing to light that the biggest argument against brostep at its inception was that it brought outside aspects into dubstep.

pkay wrote:

wolf89 wrote:

pkay wrote:

badger wrote: if anything is going to save us from "brostep" then it's other genres influencing the sound which is something that it's quite obvious the people that like "brostep" aren't interested in.

No offense to you man but this is probably the dumbest thing I've read in a good minute.
The number one gripe about 'brostep' is bringing neuro/hip hop/screw/skullstep/etc into the dubstep arena.

I'm a Neurofunk/Darkstep/Skullstep or what ever dj as well as playing dubstep. and I sure as fuck don't play dr p or "brostep".

the problem is fucking idiots like brostep, not hard dnb guys

please re-read what I wrote. I made no statement of anything slighting hard dnb guys. I helped run Mindsaw for fucks sake, not slighting the sound at all.

Just negating the argument Badger made by bringing to light that the biggest argument against brostep at its inception was that it brought outside aspects into dubstep.

You're right to an extent about the neuro influence, but I think the main gripe really is a lot of it is very rhythmically similar. The drums are almost always as straight as can be.

jamesgarfield wrote: You're right to an extent about the neuro influence, but I think the main gripe really is a lot of it is very rhythmically similar. The drums are almost always as straight as can be.

Agreed, lots of simple steppy bits. I personally don't dig the majority of it. We have our own sound and do our own thing and steer clear of the bullshit, but the loud mouth argumentative inner city prick in me can't for the life of me understand why anyone would waste their time trashing what they view as inferior artists.

Its pretty simple... if you and your set have your shit together and are making moves and pushing boundries the tertiary shit shouldn't even phase you. When a brostep artist plays before me and the crowd thinks he's the tits my thought process isn't 'fuck this guy playing all this whack ass shit' it's more along the lines of 'I can't wait to get up there and show these motherfuckers whats up'. Not sure what difference it makes on the internet. If some uneducated kid links an inferior product saying 'check this out' I link a superior product and show them the way.

a lot of what is being called dubstep these days would have been passed off as grime had it come out 5 or 6 years ago anyway

Grime is shit though.

says the guy who uses terms like "future garage" grime is technically future garage

i hear what y'all are saying about the simple drum patterns used over and over again, same thing made me tired of DnB, but what you gonna do? just gotta keep doing you

pkay wrote:The number one gripe about 'brostep' is bringing neuro/hip hop/screw/skullstep/etc into the dubstep arena.

is it? first i've heard about it tbh. as i said at the end of my post i try and avoid brostep because i don't personally like it so i'm happy to admit i don't know the intricacies of the scene having never been to those kinds of nights

pkay wrote:Roots dubstep seems to think if brostep/tearout/glitch/whateverthefuck didn't exist, that their army of followers would be larger. That simply isn't true. Dubstep was well established before tearout started getting big. You didn't manage to tap into that fanbase at that time.... people obviously heard it and it wasn't their bag. Tearout tapped into a new market that was completely unrelated to the roots dubstep scene.

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totally agree with that

do people really care about how large their music scene is? first we don't want it too big, then we're afraid it's getting too big, then we're worried that other scenes may get bigger


just do you



ps; wtf is skullstep?

fractal wrote:do people really care about how large their music scene is? first we don't want it too big, then we're afraid it's getting too big, then we're worried that other scenes may get bigger

haha exactly

when i said i totally agree i'll remove the bit about the dubstep scene being bigger if not for brostep. i don't think that's anyone's worry, and if anything a lot of people would say that dubstep being smaller is better

fractal wrote:says the guy who uses terms like "future garage" grime is technically future garage

i hear what y'all are saying about the simple drum patterns used over and over again, same thing made me tired of DnB, but what you gonna do? just gotta keep doing you

yer but its not though is it?! It's cold, souless, synthetic, discordant music made for 14-16 year old boys to 'try' and rap over.