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Hurtdeer wrote:

Basic A wrote: This. And to the person who posted right after FSTZ:

Serox is a DJ. Ive heard his sets. The man still buys new wax. Bias against anytihng new? WTF... No... Tell that to the idiots still rinsing 3 yr old datscision breakthrough stuff.

yeah well the difference is i'm not seeing these datscision kids repeatedly talk about how the scene "lost it years ago". I'd rather see Serox do a mix over those guys any day, but he is still Mr Negative. I'm not judging, I just think it's a shame because music excites me a lot and I wish more people would feel the same way!

gravity wrote:could anyone tell me how a loefah tune is any less bland and formulaic than a datsik tune? let alone any more unique?

(disclaimer: i dont care who you think is better and personally dont think either artist is particularly exciting and dont care who did what for the scene, etc.)

edit: in fact lets expand that to the whole lot. how is deep/minimal/'mature' (read: what the hardcore dubstep types seem to see as the 'real deal') any more intellgint or unique or whatever than tear-out dancefloor dubstep?

gravity wrote:could anyone tell me how a loefah tune is any less bland and formulaic than a datsik tune? let alone any more unique?

(disclaimer: i dont care who you think is better and personally dont think either artist is particularly exciting and dont care who did what for the scene, etc.)

edit: in fact lets expand that to the whole lot. how is deep/minimal/'mature' (read: what the hardcore dubstep types seem to see as the 'real deal') any more intellgint or unique or whatever than tear-out dancefloor dubstep?

deadly habit wrote:far from it
on the popular front it's def cookie cutter as hell, but there are loads of great things and producers pushing the boundaries still
unfortunately you have to dig like hell to find em and a lot of times on download sites they fall under other genres than dubstep

gravity wrote:could anyone tell me how a loefah tune is any less bland and formulaic than a datsik tune? let alone any more unique?

(disclaimer: i dont care who you think is better and personally dont think either artist is particularly exciting and dont care who did what for the scene, etc.)

edit: in fact lets expand that to the whole lot. how is deep/minimal/'mature' (read: what the hardcore dubstep types seem to see as the 'real deal') any more intellgint or unique or whatever than tear-out dancefloor dubstep?

Hurtdeer wrote:

gravity wrote:could anyone tell me how a loefah tune is any less bland and formulaic than a datsik tune? let alone any more unique?

(disclaimer: i dont care who you think is better and personally dont think either artist is particularly exciting and dont care who did what for the scene, etc.)

edit: in fact lets expand that to the whole lot. how is deep/minimal/'mature' (read: what the hardcore dubstep types seem to see as the 'real deal') any more intellgint or unique or whatever than tear-out dancefloor dubstep?

it's less popular, and people who take pride in their less mainstream music, being naturally sociopathic, think that that necessarily implies greater intelligence or artistic vision

gravity wrote: edit: in fact lets expand that to the whole lot. how is deep/minimal/'mature' (read: what the hardcore dubstep types seem to see as the 'real deal') any more intellgint or unique or whatever than tear-out dancefloor dubstep?

JFK wrote:The reason the deeper sound is regarded as more intelligent (i dont like that term because it implies tha people making tearout tunes are in some way less intelligent) is because it contains more subtle elements and tends to incorporate more advance sound design techniques. Their tends to be a range of reasons why people make deeper stuff too, to convey a variety of emotions, to describe a variety of experiences and ideals. Where as tearout stuff only tends to serve one purpose, ie to make the dance floor move its collective ass.

There is nothing better about either style. They are very different and they are designed for totally opposing situations. To compare one to the other is ridiculous.

decree wrote: isnt that so true,
Gravity <3
Who ever was above my other post is a clear example of the above....
he literally didnt even answer your question

JFK wrote:

gravity wrote: edit: in fact lets expand that to the whole lot. how is deep/minimal/'mature' (read: what the hardcore dubstep types seem to see as the 'real deal') any more intellgint or unique or whatever than tear-out dancefloor dubstep?

JFK wrote:The reason the deeper sound is regarded as more intelligent (i dont like that term because it implies tha people making tearout tunes are in some way less intelligent) is because it contains more subtle elements and tends to incorporate more advance sound design techniques. Their tends to be a range of reasons why people make deeper stuff too, to convey a variety of emotions, to describe a variety of experiences and ideals. Where as tearout stuff only tends to serve one purpose, ie to make the dance floor move its collective ass.

There is nothing better about either style. They are very different and they are designed for totally opposing situations. To compare one to the other is ridiculous.

decree wrote: isnt that so true,
Gravity <3
Who ever was above my other post is a clear example of the above....
he literally didnt even answer your question

I dont understand your attitude mate. Dont get it twisted. Im not saying I personally think deeper dubstep is better than dancefloor stuff, Im not into devision in the scene at all. I like all types of dubstep. I was simply offering an opinion on the above quoted question from Gravity. Im not elitist at all.

I said "the reason that deeper dubstep is regarded as more intelligent.... etc etc" this doesnt mean I personally hold that view but rather it is an opinion on the views of the group of people that Gravity is referring to in his post.

Live and let live. Make what you want.

green plan wrote:
I think you are so off point it isn't funny.

Hurtdeer wrote:serox hates music, it's his Thing and we all gotta have a Thing

on another note i thought the new eskmo album was pretty exciting and i quite like all this dubs n breaks stuff that's happening

Hurtdeer wrote:
yeah when it blinds you into hatred of anything new then I do feel there is something wrong with it. I'm passionate about music too, but i prefer to focus on what I love instead of talking trap about how things are dying or being ruined. I open my ears up to everything and give it a chance, even if initially I don't like it.

not to diss you Serox, i've heard your mixes and they are badass. But being captain negative is clearly your Thing

legend4ry wrote:

Audio Doughnuts wrote:We're Londoners, we've seen him play a fair bit in the past 2 years ha! Hes got a fair lot of unreleased stuff, he just needs to get his arse off and start releasing it!

You know what, in the 5 years ive been into this sound, I have never seen youngsta play out. There seems to be a curse of when younx plays and me attending.

tavravlavish wrote:I think the peek of it was horsepower productions! I still can't find anything that really sounds like some of their tunes, a el-b song that comes to mind is probably the closest.

Hurtdeer wrote:
yeah well the difference is i'm not seeing these datscision kids repeatedly talk about how the scene "lost it years ago". I'd rather see Serox do a mix over those guys any day, but he is still Mr Negative. I'm not judging, I just think it's a shame because music excites me a lot and I wish more people would feel the same way!