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Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:33 am
by titched
just to turn this all inside out - this dude remixed a salem track in a juke style - and it's wicked!


Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:59 am
by Motorway to Roswell
Both of them are good but I prefer drag to juke. Don't like much juke. DJ nate - Ima burn is amazing, though.

Drag is a lot more interesting imo. Reminds me of Joy Divison,The Jesus & Mary Chain, My Bloody Valentine etc.











Some of the Zola jesus stuff reminds me of drag.


Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:09 am
by fractal
Dragg is aight, but I feel like people are only exposed to one style of juke, ie, the kind that is overly vocal, and erroneously think that is what the music is all about. Imho the juke that combines soulful melodies and vocal hooks with skipping toms and incredible sub bass is some of the best dancefloor music to hit the floor for a bit... Dragg is dope too tho

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:23 am
by titched
Motorway to Roswell wrote:
Drag is a lot more interesting imo. Reminds me of Joy Divison,The Jesus & Mary Chain, My Bloody Valentine etc.
i would add Siouxsie & The Banshees to that list especially where zola jesus is concerned. but now w/ these bands it's like 4th generation and it's basically still the same. i guess as long as there are angsty teens there will be another generation of slow fuzzy ploddy bands to keep them filled with darkness.

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:27 am
by apmje
After this thead and looking around, my favourite tune has to be Salem - Redlights. Tune is actually magic.




Anyone tried mixing this with any dubstep yet? xD

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:48 pm
by glottis5
apmje wrote:After this thead and looking around, my favourite tune has to be Salem - Redlights. Tune is actually magic.




Anyone tried mixing this with any dubstep yet? xD
yeah, it's a bit awkward, but i'm not a very good dj, lol... i'm sure that it could work though

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:51 pm
by Motorway to Roswell
Juke vs Drag is a pretty odd comparison. Juke is built for the dance and for dancing to. The same can't be said for drag. They draw influences from similar areas, but they're pretty far apart.

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:01 pm
by fractal
i would agree

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:21 pm
by 1017_duck
Motorway to Roswell wrote:Juke vs Drag is a pretty odd comparison. Juke is built for the dance and for dancing to. The same can't be said for drag. They draw influences from similar areas, but they're pretty far apart.
fractal wrote:i would agree
x2

i've been trying to bang out a response with this exact sentiment but got a little too redundant.

this is the first i've heard of drag, pretty out there. does no one else find that live vid as haunting as me? :lol:

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:46 pm
by mchrysler
jamesgarfield wrote:
Motorway to Roswell wrote:Juke vs Drag is a pretty odd comparison. Juke is built for the dance and for dancing to. The same can't be said for drag. They draw influences from similar areas, but they're pretty far apart.
fractal wrote:i would agree
x2

i've been trying to bang out a response with this exact sentiment but got a little too redundant.

this is the first i've heard of drag, pretty out there. does no one else find that live vid as haunting as me? :lol:
just in general.. what one appeals to YOU more.. i know they are pretty much on the opposite spectrum but they both share one thing... a lot of hype and a newly found worldwide fan base

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:55 pm
by mchrysler
glottis5 wrote:
apmje wrote:After this thead and looking around, my favourite tune has to be Salem - Redlights. Tune is actually magic.




Anyone tried mixing this with any dubstep yet? xD
yeah, it's a bit awkward, but i'm not a very good dj, lol... i'm sure that it could work though

new podcast out on xlr8r (today!) by Hyetal... he mixes OoOOo towards the end of his set

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:00 pm
by clairvoyeur
as absolutely horrible as that live performance i posted earlier is, Salem's album actually has some really good tracks on it. ive just never heard such an amazing range from studio to live act

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:11 pm
by tundra
Don't mean to hijack the thread but...

If you're into drag/witch house/etc, please check out my label Tundra. We're featuring upcoming releases by artists like Mascara & Slow Head with more in the works.

http://www.soundcloud.com/tundra-dubs

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:55 pm
by mchrysler
clairvoyeur wrote:as absolutely horrible as that live performance i posted earlier is, Salem's album actually has some really good tracks on it. ive just never heard such an amazing range from studio to live act
i know eh!! (most of) their album is beautifully dark

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:01 pm
by fractal
gonna cop the salem album and get to know

titched wrote:just to turn this all inside out - this dude remixed a salem track in a juke style - and it's wicked!

this is really dope, especially around 3:30

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:23 am
by skitz_0
some of the tracks posted up are good, the tri angle mix especially, but that live salem performance had me :? the whole way through.

i'm gonna have to say that in the juke v. drag competition, juke gets my vote.



those tunes are relentless

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:33 am
by fractal
yes man!

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:09 am
by kingGhost
eh anything over 140 usually turns me off... and as for the dancing... that's some boy band shit right there, lol

to each his mother fuckin own
:w:

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:59 am
by selrahc
jamesgarfield wrote:to weigh in on this topic..i find this music (dragg?) pretty intriguing tbh. what's up with that live salem vid at the top? beatless, one guy on a synth, dead crowd, very very weird feel to the whole thing.

can anyone offer any insight? seems like a dope junkie/hatchet swinging midwest thing from the looks of that vid.
they're just shit live, most of its studio recorded + then manipulated so unsurprisingly when you can't just prerecord the terrible raps and screw them down, its painfully obvious you're bad at rapping.

also a tent in broad daylight isn't exactly the ideal environment for this stuff, more headphones bizness

Re: Juke vs. Dragg

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:17 am
by fractal
selrahc wrote:
jamesgarfield wrote:to weigh in on this topic..i find this music (dragg?) pretty intriguing tbh. what's up with that live salem vid at the top? beatless, one guy on a synth, dead crowd, very very weird feel to the whole thing.

can anyone offer any insight? seems like a dope junkie/hatchet swinging midwest thing from the looks of that vid.
they're just shit live, most of its studio recorded + then manipulated so unsurprisingly when you can't just prerecord the terrible raps and screw them down, its painfully obvious you're bad at rapping.

also a tent in broad daylight isn't exactly the ideal environment for this stuff, more headphones bizness
true that... listened to the album, some good stuff on there. really like redlight, the live version is not to good tho