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Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:04 am
by FSTZ
BTW..

I am old enough to remember when this happened to hiphop

it's a natural life cycle of "something cool"

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:20 am
by street_legal
don't hate, educate. take the 'mainstream' followers on a journey back to their roots. dubstep was supposed to formula free, anything goes...

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:59 am
by Perfecture
I wouldn't get too worried about dubstep becoming 'Chart Style Mainstream'
Although I did hear Bieber is getting 'down with da wobblez'

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:08 am
by egoless
I don't have anything against "commercialisation" of the genre, if the artists that get "commercialized" stay true to the music they make... Every serious artist spend countless hours crafting their art and that is a job like car mechanic or something like that, and they deserve to be paid so they can pay their rents, bills, foods etc...

But if they start converting and making rnb&pop formulas with dubstep wobble and rhytm, well that's shit and I disagree with that

Sooo much of garage I heard had this "rnb&pop" formula in it, some cheesy melodies and female vocals on top and that's... well, shit...

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:14 am
by abZ
I am pretty apathetic. Can't let shit get to you. You just have to stick with your own personal vision and fuck everyone else. It's kinda weird because when I got into dubstep part of the appeal was that no one else around my area was into it or playing it and I always like to go against the grain a little bit so now it does get a little cringey that I am a part of the movement that is sweeping everyone up. I still feel like I am at the same spot as 5 years ago though. I still play shit that people don't recognize and surprise people that think they know what dubstep is all about. In the end I think the commercialization is a good thing, just know that you are no longer part of an exclusive club.

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:23 am
by egoless
abZ wrote:I still feel like I am at the same spot as 5 years ago though.
yeah, but still, the tune in your sig is :5:

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:33 am
by abZ
egoless wrote:
abZ wrote:I still feel like I am at the same spot as 5 years ago though.
yeah, but still, the tune in your sig is :5:
Yeah Oceania is sick. I can't get over how the kid has only been making beats for like a year or two. Can't comprehend that.

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:37 am
by egoless
abZ wrote:Yeah Oceania is sick. I can't get over how the kid has only been making beats for like a year or two. Can't comprehend that.
very sick... A very veeery pleasant discovery, thanks to you :) cheers

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:24 am
by Mapledelux
idk if its going to become mainstream any time soon.... dubsteps obviously very different and alot people dont understand it when they first here it iv yet to here a dubstep tune on the radio or see something about it on t.v. in america atleast.. rusko still makes some legitamite stuff i think bassnectar is more commercial than him and i respect rusko much more cuz hes been in the game way longer.... as long as hes not remixin hannah montana or justin bieber i dont really give a shit imo

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:44 pm
by Johnst
i thought this thread was going to be retarded, but there's actually been a lot of good points made.

amphibian, you're spot on imo. :Q:

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:08 pm
by Dystinkt
Its becoming well known much faster in england man,theres been a few dubstep tunes on television ( the bar9 remix of kickstarts for example) and magnetic man and benga on his own having songs and an album faring well in the charts. To reiterate, its not commercialisation im against, its the ignorance of its so called new fans that annoys me.

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:13 pm
by paravrais
I think the Hip Hop example people raised is a good point to think about. Hip Hop went comercial a looong time ago but IMO the stuff being made at the moment is the very best to ever come out of the scene. Dr. Syntax, Rhyme Asylum, Contact Play, YunGun etc etc etc. The UK is killing it right now, you just gotta not listen to the charts if you don't like hearing genres you listen to in them XD

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:27 pm
by Dystinkt
Fair dos I understand your point mate, I just get irritated at the amount of people who think they're the dog bollocks because they've heard woo boost or sierra leone. the more dubstep goes commercial the more people have started to do this round my ends which irritates me when they try and shout me down when i tell them woo boost is admittedly decent but hardly the be all and end all of dubstep getting old and sierra leone is just a detuned reese and a sample pitched up. ironically the original song is much better imo.

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:30 pm
by deadly_habit
even when i meet idiots i just laugh, shrug it off and walk away
that's the joy of being an elitest snob
doesn't mean if the commercial stuff gets played and i have a few drinks in me i'm not going to skank out

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:42 pm
by OlzaMK
Mapledelux wrote:idk if its going to become mainstream any time soon.... dubsteps obviously very different and alot people dont understand it when they first here it iv yet to here a dubstep tune on the radio or see something about it on t.v. in america atleast.. rusko still makes some legitamite stuff i think bassnectar is more commercial than him and i respect rusko much more cuz hes been in the game way longer.... as long as hes not remixin hannah montana or justin bieber i dont really give a shit imo

You know I would agree with that. But I saw Bassnectar live 2 days ago on a PK system and his 2 hours of mixing was excellent. He know's how to get that party started without all the stupid spinbacks and dancing. All the sexy bitches were skanking out. :h:

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:39 pm
by paravrais
deadly habit wrote:even when i meet idiots i just laugh, shrug it off and walk away
that's the joy of being an elitest snob
doesn't mean if the commercial stuff gets played and i have a few drinks in me i'm not going to skank out
This +1,000,000


Despite what I've just said I have to agree that I don't particularly like having dubstep nights filled with 'trendy' people and idiot kids instead of the hoodies on, gunfingers in the air crowds of yesteryear. It's a nasty thing to have to look at while your skanking and the odds of me getting into a chat with them are approximately -10 whereas in the past I used to always get into random conversations with dudes at dubstep nights. Was down in Brighton visiting friends in the week and down there it seemed to still have the same vibe it used to. Maybe it's just cos I live in a snobby city that my area has been hit much worse. Still, not gonna loose any sleep over it.

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:33 pm
by jTerror420
hello everyone, long time lurker, first time poster.
anyway, im from the usa and im glad that i found people who listened to this. i first heard a dubstep tune maybe 2 or 3 years ago, havent stopped since.
I agree with everything that has been said here and the hip hop example was a really good one. There will still be music and the 'real' dubstep out there, 5 or 10 years after it may have been commercialized. youll just have to dig through all the other songs first.

A little example...who has heard of Big L? He was a hip hop artist back in the '90's who worked with jay-z a lot. someone please listen to any jay-z song and listen to Big L's 'streetstruck' or 'put it on'. Guess who ended up going commercial and guess who should have?

The point im trying to make is this...even though there will always be an artist in a genre that will try to make songs for airtime, there will always be artists who do it because they love what they do.

Besides, i think its fun to chief a bowl and just go exploring for some new dubstep that i havent heard lol

and id really rather not hear "oh if americunts are listening to it, then its already commercial"...get enough of that on youtube lol

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:56 pm
by Johnst
jTerror420 wrote:and id really rather not hear "oh if americunts are listening to it, then its already commercial"...get enough of that on youtube lol
+1 :6:

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:11 pm
by deadly_habit
lol people act like youtube matters in the scheme of things

Re: The Depressing inevitable commercialisation of Dubstep.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:18 pm
by ogunslinger
When I want to listen to high quality music I always go to youtube.com -w-

seriously... why does youtube sound so bad?