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Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:24 pm
by Kes-Es
VirtualMark wrote:
Kes-Es wrote:
Phatboygeo wrote: Im sorry i fail, i just dont see anyhting better...someone show me there sound, thats closer than mine.
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Challenge. Fucking. Accepted.

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It actually truly bothers me that this wound up so close because I had been rather excited about the sound and now I cannot use it without feeling dumb.
How did you get that sound? Fancy posting up a tutorial? Sounds pretty awesome!

I can't do video or I would, It's a mixture of 4 similar patches that I had created, originally it was just a sludgy kindof constant sound without all the LFO bits and what not, but I added some flange and reverb and WOW and then of course the LFO.

How would you guys like me to go about a tutorial? I have no qualms about doing that haha.

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:49 pm
by VirtualMark
Well just the synths used, waveforms, filters, and the effects chain would be good to know! Maybe some screenshots?

I've been messing around with synths for ages now and not come up with something like that, fair play.

Did you split the signal into different frequency bands? Did you resample or is that straight from the synth?

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:11 pm
by Kes-Es
VirtualMark wrote:Well just the synths used, waveforms, filters, and the effects chain would be good to know! Maybe some screenshots?

I've been messing around with synths for ages now and not come up with something like that, fair play.

Did you split the signal into different frequency bands? Did you resample or is that straight from the synth?

I used Albino 3 for it, and it's pretty much straight out of it + effects, It just occurred to me that you guys might be thinking I made this in reason =/, which isn't true, but continuing, It's +2&+3 high saws and low sines, with mild spread and roughly 45% saturation, running through two short tail reverbs, a phaser, and a chorus, that's inside albino, and then running in the mixer, another reverb, followed the fruity bass boost, a flange, and CMT bitcrusher with the 5.3db of drive.
In the matrix I have LFO 1 assigned to the filter one saturation with a level of 666...lol.


I'm not the best at explaining all this, and for that I apologize. I'll try to take some screen shots here later, I wasn't expecting people to want to know how to make it -q- .

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:11 pm
by Kes-Es
Edit* Double post, I'm sorry

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:25 am
by VirtualMark
Awesome, i'd never have thought to assign the lfo to the saturation, makes some interesting noises. Still haven't managed to make it tho, but noticing interesting effects with the really short reverbs.

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:43 am
by excision
OMGZ GUYS i made an excision/datsik bass sound today!!!

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:47 am
by JemGrover
excision wrote:OMGZ GUYS i made an excision/datsik bass sound today!!!
Har Har Har :6:

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:52 am
by VirtualMark
excision wrote:OMGZ GUYS i made an excision/datsik bass sound today!!!
Care to give us some pointers? I've tried splitting frequencies but not had much luck, and people are getting better sounds than me with just a synth patch. If i use lots of effects i seem to just end up with a mess.

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:05 am
by excision
VirtualMark wrote:
excision wrote:OMGZ GUYS i made an excision/datsik bass sound today!!!
Care to give us some pointers? I've tried splitting frequencies but not had much luck, and people are getting better sounds than me with just a synth patch. If i use lots of effects i seem to just end up with a mess.
i think you should focus on making an uber sick virtual mark sound so everyone can ask you how to make it and u can just leave them wondering ;)

but as general advice: less is more, focus on movement and changes to things within your sound with envelopes or lfo's on things u wouldnt normally put them on etc, instead of adding more things on top which can make it sound blehshdjlhs

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:10 am
by mojomusic
Phatboygeo wrote:I seem to be the only one who has ever recreated it perfectly
this is the best thing i've ever read anywhere, ever.

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:16 am
by VirtualMark
"i think you should focus on making an uber sick virtual mark sound so everyone can ask you how to make it and u can just leave them wondering ;)" - watch this space, i'm working on it! :)

thanks for the advice!

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:21 am
by Kes-Es
excision wrote:OMGZ GUYS i made an excision/datsik bass sound today!!!
SEND ME DA PATCH PLZZZZ?! :6:

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:35 am
by Thuun
excision wrote:
i think you should focus on making an uber sick virtual mark sound so everyone can ask you how to make it and u can just leave them wondering ;)
Inspiring words.

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:57 am
by Grime Syndicate
I love this forum. :w:

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:47 pm
by Sinisterbeats
im aware that this isnt up to daxcision standard but its closer than the op's effort. Please ignore the terrible mixdown, this is a very old tune of mine and iv moved away from this sound but If anyone wants the patch pm me.

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:32 pm
by Sinisterbeats
getting more requests than i expected for the patch so heres the link for the DL

http://www.sendspace.com/file/bpc1qn

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:14 pm
by therzbm
decklyn wrote:Who cares if you can make excision's bass. If you take the patch from excision and give it to someone who can't arrange a song it's going to be a shit song still.
Been a while since I was on DSF but seems like excision/datsik bass is the new wobble, ya?
Write your own tunes, find your own sound. It doesn't have to be hard either.

Fuck listen to a song like this: it'll rock the floor still and isn't all techy and shit. Easy simple sounds but arranged well.
extremely simple sounds AKA brutal electro, swerve just rinses brutal electro in all his tunes in some form or another, they arent bad as grime instrumentals but when you look deeper you see how lame some of his production is in my opinion

also love how people in this thread claim they dont like that style of bass, then claim they can make a better version of it, but only used it in old tunes.

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:05 pm
by nylle
excision wrote:OMGZ GUYS i made an excision/datsik bass sound today!!!
yeah SURE you did noob

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:21 pm
by MKRUGGER
excision wrote:OMGZ GUYS i made an excision/datsik bass sound today!!!
You made an Excision/Datsik bass?! Nice!

I made an Datsik/Excision bass!

Re: The mystery of the Excision/Datsik Bass sound in reason

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:12 pm
by Sinisterbeats
therzbm wrote:also love how people in this thread claim they dont like that style of bass, then claim they can make a better version of it, but only used it in old tunes.
For the record, I never said I didnt like that style cos I do. Just that my music has since taken a different direction. I mentioned it was on old tune partly because its not the style I make anymore, and also because I feel my overall production has improved since then. I also said I didnt think it was up to there standard but thought Id share it anyway to help people out if they happened to be interested how I made that particular patch. Dont think your comment was aimed directly at me anyway but thats my response any way.