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i love planet µ (so much so that i know the keyboard shortcut! [alt0181]).

^^^perfect consumers

UFO over easy wrote:

Joseph-J wrote:"I know, lets chop up some amens and shout over the top. No-ones done that before". I left, and went home feeling particularly old.

Heh... that's sort of true, but sort of not. Firstly, he really is doing something totally new with his live show. He spent years programming all the software so he could chop those amens live.. creating drum and bass/breakcore/gabba/techno or whatever like that totally 100% live is pretty impressive, no? And secondly, his album is nothing like his live show whatsoever. He quit making dancefloor oriented drum and bass when he figured out he could do all that stuff live, so his album is far more experimental and 'electronica'-y.

Thats the problem I've always had with (sigh) IDM. If you can't appreciate the amount of attention thats gone into the music, because you simply can't hear it when you hear the music, then whats the point?

I have some of his older stuff and really like it, and I was expecting an absolutely wicked live show, but when you're standing there and he's bashing this shit out, there's no point in saying "well, it took him several years programming this". Its like, well WHY?

I'm not saying he ain't talented (he wouldn't be signed to µ otherwise), but when the amount of work going into a piece of music isn't reflected in the end product, I see it as a waste of time.

EaseUp wrote:

Joseph-J wrote:I've just realised why i don't like it - it confuses me and it makes me feel old.

Oh, and some of it is proper shit too. Saw Exile live with Mouse on Mars recently. Good grief. "I know, lets chop up some amens and shout over the top. No-ones done that before". I left, and went home feeling particularly old.

you seemed to like bilious paths a couple of years ago, i distinctly remember on a number of occassions havin to mix outta that crazy noise!

Ha ha, yeah, some of that album is pretty dark, but is really badly cut. It didn't help that a few years back Blackdown wandered into my room and dropped a lightbulb onto the record while it was playing. That was the last time I listened to that side of the album.

OMG - virus syndicate: "ready to learn RMX" - what a TUNE!!!

can't say much about the non-dubstep and non-grime releases (i.e. nearly the whole back catalogue) though...

yeah that philly soul sample in that track is quality.

the remarc reissues were on mu by the way, rephlex did the amen andrews, dj scud and soundmurderer + sk-1 stuff.

right. so some of us like mu and some of us don't.

perhaps we all agree 'idm' is a poisonous bullshit term though?

Too right there is only good music and bad... and mu put out a bit of both it seems

I like most of it but i can see why people see it as annoying or twee

Too right there is only good music and bad... and mu put out a bit of both it seems

too right. or perhaps that should say ''music you like and music you don't''...

i'm a huge fan of the label and have been since 'tango n vectif' by mu-ziq, but that doesn't mean i pick up everything they put out. apart from the fact that mu's gotta pretty prolific release schedule so it would be damn expensive, some of it simply ain't to my taste.

you just can't sum up a label with so many releases by so many diverse artists that's been in it for the long haul with a simple 'good' or 'bad' 'cos that's one huge and varied body of work. the fact that they're reppin some dubstep stuff shouldn't be seen as cynical on their part either- they've always been into exploring new electronic sounds.

@mike paradinas: PM me and i'll give you the address to send the bung to!!

I actually like most of the stuff they release- and i think they are getting better and better.

Their signing of dubstep artists not only brings dubstep to the attention of the 'idm' fans but also gets people into dubstep listening to Edit and Venetian Snares which can only be a good thing

yeah this certainly looks like its gonna be a strong year for them on all fronts.

i wasn't saying you can't like all the stuff on mu by the way. if you do then that's all good- you're certainly open-minded

pinch's ''qawwalli'' drops in a matter of days of course. sickening for that one...

One thing you could never say about the label is that it’s static. Every couple of months something really surprising pops out on it. It’s one of the few long-running labels that I’ll always check. Mike P’s Tango and Vectif stuff ruled back in the day, and still sounds pretty fresh to me.

As for Exile, his music far transcends chopped-up amens and shouting, though I do know a few folk who have that opinion having caught him at breakcore/mashup nights. Check his ep on Mosquito – a mash of house, splattered electro, jungle and god-knows-what. Absolute quality.

Joseph-J wrote:
Ha ha, yeah, some of that album is pretty dark, but is really badly cut. It didn't help that a few years back Blackdown wandered into my room and dropped a lightbulb onto the record while it was playing. That was the last time I listened to that side of the album.

Hahahaha, what the fuck!?

r33lc4sh wrote:^^^perfect consumers

UFO over easy wrote:

Joseph-J wrote:
Ha ha, yeah, some of that album is pretty dark, but is really badly cut. It didn't help that a few years back Blackdown wandered into my room and dropped a lightbulb onto the record while it was playing. That was the last time I listened to that side of the album.

Hahahaha, what the fuck!?

Yeah, it was one of those "only you could have done that" moments.

Planet Mu is pretty solid. I enjoy most of their output. when you are talking enjoyment of sound, you are talking about something so fucking objective. To me, even the most chaotic sounds are.....interesting, at the very least. I am one of those guys who just listens, to what ever, like for instance right now, the keyboard, and the person typing beside me, and the person who just pushed in the chair behind me. thats just noise. so it 'music'. there really is no difference, other than the way in which it is heard and interpreted. To some, the warped sounds coming out of some labels sounds like chimps let loose in the studio. very well. thats all good and fine. but i am sure to my mom, even the most gentle d'n'b sounds like that too, at least to her.
Regardless,
A FUCKING TONNE OF RESPECT TO MU FOR PUSHING A SOUND, OR VARIOUS SOUNDS, THAT THE ARTISTS INVOLVED ARE INTO, WHOLE HEARTEDLY!
Peace,
B.
p.s.- REMARC & BIZZY B, WICKED ARTISTS, BOTH OLD AND NEW! SCIENCE 5 IS GOLD
p.p.s - 7/5 is not a time signature

i have to say i like mu, i originally liked breakcore before i got into dubstep, and mus promotion of pinch, vexd, markone etc got my attention. and if dubstep fans start listening to work in 11/16 occasionally, then all the better.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wo ... es#11.2F16

evergreen wrote:Planet Mu is pretty solid. I enjoy most of their output. when you are talking enjoyment of sound, you are talking about something so fucking objective. To me, even the most chaotic sounds are.....interesting, at the very least. I am one of those guys who just listens, to what ever, like for instance right now, the keyboard, and the person typing beside me, and the person who just pushed in the chair behind me. thats just noise. so it 'music'. there really is no difference, other than the way in which it is heard and interpreted. To some, the warped sounds coming out of some labels sounds like chimps let loose in the studio. very well. thats all good and fine. but i am sure to my mom, even the most gentle d'n'b sounds like that too, at least to her.
Regardless,
A FUCKING TONNE OF RESPECT TO MU FOR PUSHING A SOUND, OR VARIOUS SOUNDS, THAT THE ARTISTS INVOLVED ARE INTO, WHOLE HEARTEDLY!
Peace,
B.
p.s.- REMARC & BIZZY B, WICKED ARTISTS, BOTH OLD AND NEW! SCIENCE 5 IS GOLD
p.p.s - 7/5 is not a time signature

Defo agree to all that!

I like the Edit, Ddamage, Virus Syndicate on Mu. Big advantage of Mu is that theire releases are way easier to get in Cologne then releases of all that relatively small Dupstep labels.

Joseph-J wrote:It didn't help that a few years back Blackdown wandered into my room and dropped a lightbulb onto the record while it was playing. That was the last time I listened to that side of the album.

I did what? i deny all charges!

µ-Ziq has a good ear for tunes. Respect to him.