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Re: Looking at University
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:26 am
by therapist
Moultz wrote:I think when your interested in something like music in such a way where you think "hey i could do it as a course and ill really enjoy it" can be really bad. Its like having a girl who is amazing no-strings-attactched shag and then when you get into that relationship with her you really start to find the little things that build up to you hating the relationship.. (If that makes sense)
My advice would be to have a good think about wether your truely that passionate about music that doing it as a subject won't harm your love for your hobbie
Wise words. Similarly deadlines/limitations inspire some people (musically or otherwise) but knock all the creativity out of others, just something to think about.
Re: Looking at University
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:53 am
by finji
I'm just going to take a geography degree and produce in my spare time, seems sketchy taking a degree you're not sure that is going to be of use in the future..
Re: Looking at University
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:14 pm
by oli90
Moultz wrote:both my brother and best mate (at uni) had this problem. Both chose to study something at Uni in which they see as a hobbie and something they enjoy.
BOTH DROPPED OUT.
My brother has been doing music related stuff for years and did a college deploma in music tech or something. Did his first year and then failed his second year. TWICE.
My mate has a gift IMO, makes tunes that are heavily inspired by Joy O, Ramadanman, Burial, Zomby, Flying Lotus ect.. He chose to do it at Uni but in his eyes wanted to be going to uni creating tunes, getting help of creating tunes and lazing around. In the real world this did not happen.. Lots of theory and software stuff and he ended up ducking lessons until he fell so far behind he kinda felt he had to drop out because he wasnt understanding jack shit.
I think when your interested in something like music in such a way where you think "hey i could do it as a course and ill really enjoy it" can be really bad. Its like having a girl who is amazing no-strings-attactched shag and then when you get into that relationship with her you really start to find the little things that build up to you hating the relationship.. (If that makes sense)
My advice would be to have a good think about wether your truely that passionate about music that doing it as a subject won't harm your love for your hobbie
There's a few people like that on my course, really talented producers with releases, rarely turn up.
Re: Looking at University
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:20 pm
by Medik
Wrigzilla wrote:
All the uni's that I applied to that wanted to do interviews asked you to bring along a cd of like 4 tracks you've done.
Ah that makes sense. Hopefully I'll get asked.
Cheeky wrote:
Bradford/leeds pal so kinda near haha, same county at least lol.
Haha close enough.
Digezt wrote:If you want to learn about production making synths, and how to mix dont do Music Tech, most of the time is spent doing written essays, mostly music business, some live sound.
but does apply for every music tech course or just the one you're doing? I thought from looking they are different at different unis. Anyone else doing music tech and finding it is mostly essays?
Moultz wrote:My advice would be to have a good think about wether your truely that passionate about music that doing it as a subject won't harm your love for your hobbie
Hmmm. . . I consider my producing the music I like, and making music for me personally a hobby, but producing for other people and other purposes is different. I also quite like the idea of live sound and other things like recording for work but I wouldn't consider them my hobbies. Definitely something for me to think about though, I hope I'm not just talking my way into a jobless future.
Re: Looking at University
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:24 am
by ruckus49
think about this. there are barely any jobs for music technology (which pay shit) and a million people who want to do it. you will most likely have to freelance once you graduate, so your degree pretty much means nothing. i have a bachelors degree in audio production and never pursued it because I did two internships and wasn't really feeling it. I'm currently at a tech school for electronics and have surprisingly learned more about audio theory than i did in my bachelors program. Go into electronics/electrical engineering or computer programming. With these skills you could build your own synths or write your own vst software. And the most important thing is you will be able to get a well paying job right out of school.
its tempting to try to make your hobby your career, but I would advise against it. The internship I had at a recording studio, there was a 19 year old kid who was right out of high school working beside me, while I was there to complete my degree. Going to school for audio means nothing! This is because employers realize that its super easy to pass these classes. If you really wanna get a job in music tech. build a portfolio and start freelancing. You will learn so much more on your own than you will in school. Audio production isn't brain surgery, all the resources on the web, plus your own experimentation is all you need.
Re: Looking at University
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:50 pm
by Docwra_Sound_Design
Southampton Solent University is worth looking at. The Audio Tech courses are very good and have a very high graduate to employment ratio when leaving. I am currently doing Sound Engineering and love it, learnt so much! PM me if you need any more details
Re: Looking at University
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:03 pm
by Medik
Docwra_Sound_Design wrote:Southampton Solent University is worth looking at. The Audio Tech courses are very good and have a very high graduate to employment ratio when leaving. I am currently doing Sound Engineering and love it, learnt so much! PM me if you need any more details
Cheers man. I'll take a look tomorrow and I'll pm you if I have any questions.
Re: Looking at University
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:36 am
by Duffman
I'm looking to do music tech later this year. From the open day the course seemed perfect: lots of practical work, working with high quality equipment and software, getting interesting assignments, meeting a lot of people with the seem mind set as me when it comes to music and the performance module.
Hopefully it's as perfect as it seems, but not everything is exactly what it says on the tin.
Re: Looking at University
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:24 am
by Astrobear
This thread is great I am in a sort of related situation except I already made the decision to get a degree in electrical engineering instead of music tech/production/etc. There are so many electrical engineering jobs in the music industry (and just about any other industry you fancy) and these are secure, high paying, jobs that your degree will help you get.
You will learn a lot about music production if you take a course on it. But for me this learning can be done by experimenting on my own and using the internet as a resource. Experimenting and using the internet for electrical engineering however would probably be worthless though.
It's not all about practicality but that was the decision I made and I still think that music production is an option for a career for me as my last EP was a success and I didn't need any music production courses to do so.
Re: Looking at University
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:59 am
by futures_untold
Re: Looking at University
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:57 pm
by Medik
Great thread (as usual from you). Thanks, I'll be ploughing through those links in the next few days trying to make a decision.