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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:35 pm
by samsupa
Lone Wolf wrote:trying to push some mates to make some doom metal/blackmetal/grindcore influenced dubstep.... so hold tight! it might happen!!
Already happened baby!
And cut!
Out end of June early July 2007
www.myspace.com/bloodiedblade
Yea not soon enuff big up Lone Wolf you are well on your way to the dark mountain of dub.
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:22 am
by lone wolf
Cheers guys. More heavy tuneage on it's way.
"Skull Fucked With My Sword" is being layered at the minute
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:42 am
by farmaz
SamSupa wrote: The race is on for BLACK METAL STEP......Finnish and Norway crew where u at?
i can see Burzum, emporer & dark throne quit burning churches & get into dubstep.
maybe ask Sunn o))) to do some halfstep loefah style tunes also
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 3:20 pm
by samsupa
Farmaz wrote:SamSupa wrote: The race is on for BLACK METAL STEP......Finnish and Norway crew where u at?
i can see Burzum, emporer & dark throne quit burning churches & get into dubstep.
maybe ask Sunn o))) to do some halfstep loefah style tunes also
Aside from Burzum's Nationalistic leanings, his ambient stuff is really droney and could use some step behind it for sure.
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 3:38 pm
by farmaz
SamSupa wrote:Farmaz wrote:SamSupa wrote: The race is on for BLACK METAL STEP......Finnish and Norway crew where u at?
i can see Burzum, emporer & dark throne quit burning churches & get into dubstep.
maybe ask Sunn o))) to do some halfstep loefah style tunes also
Aside from Burzum's Nationalistic leanings, his ambient stuff is really droney and could use some step behind it for sure.
yer that mix on radio1 a few weeks ago by vex'd they opened the set with a Sunn o))) track.
i allways had the idea of dropping some half-step beat over some drone like sunn o)))'s tunes, i think it would sound so heavy.
also a bit off topic but i am going to see the kings of drone (sunn o))) in a months time in birmingham along side Isis
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:04 pm
by samsupa
Nice I just saw Jesu and Isis man good show.
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:06 pm
by horse
check out the track "grist", last track on drumcorps album of the same name.
thats is disgustingly heavy, properly fucked up tune. but still. it mixes into the harder end of the dubstep sound with ease
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:54 pm
by composite_human
^ where can i find this drumcorps album you speak of? i keep hearing about it and now i'm curious
Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:39 am
by stormfield
uploaded some new sound samples to the virb player..
http://www.virb.com/combatrecordingslondon
Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:50 pm
by farmaz
composite_human wrote:^ where can i find this drumcorps album you speak of? i keep hearing about it and now i'm curious
http://www.drumcorps.cc/
Its very heavy breakcore over death metal
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:24 pm
by nene
someone on another forum was saying that scorn practically invented dubstep. I'm not familiar with the guy's work. what do y'all think?
Yeah that was Nic Bullen
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:47 pm
by sprash
Yes, Nic Bullen (ex-Scorn) credited Mick Harris as inventing dubstep.... [
http://www.avalanchers.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=575]
.... and when I asked Mick about what he thinks about Scorn and dubstep, his comment was that he does what he does, never 'fitted' Scorn into any genres or 'fashions' and nor will he ever do that..... RESPECT to the man!
Nicholas Bullen Wrote:
I don't have a problem with The Wire either...
It serves a purpose (to mention new releases and to provide background information on artists via overviews of their recordings and interviews), and it does that relatively well...
It is deinitely true that the magazine is prone to having dominant 'trends' develop within the journalism (examples from recent times would be their discovery of 'extreme metal' and the pushing of the 'free folk outsider' artists)...however, it is perhaps an inevitable result of the medium in its current context...and it is fairly easy to recognise the bias and discount it in orser to get to the actual information...
An example would be the Burial album as their Number One choice - which is not only an example of their bias towards Britain (as meho points out) but also a bias towards London. On a personal level, I found the Burial album rather dull (I'm not particularly into cheesy harmonies on synth presets) but it's not reall that important. Anyway, Mick 'The Human Tornado' Harris invented Dubstep 10 years ago, and they didn't give him credit for it...
And - to be serious for a moment - who ever bothers with those 'Best of the Year' charts? They're just dull filler, aren't they? I usually read the December issue of The Wire in about 2 hours...
It can also be a little tiresome to be constantly bombarded by this idea that intelligent writing is 'overly intellectual' (as if being intellectual is some kind of negative element). On a persoanl level, I appreciate writing that is thoughtful, articulate, scholarly, erudite, exploratory and intertextual...and I particularly appreciate writing which makes demands on my own level of intelligence and encourages me to actively think...it's a pleasure, not a pain...
Re: Yeah that was Nic Bullen
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:19 am
by ufo over easy
That guy comes across as incredibly bitter.
And Mick Harris didn't invent dubstep. It's an incredibly obvious sonic connection, but just as obviously completely unconnected to anything or anyone that actually helped the scene develop.
I would also suggest that if he wants anything he writes about 'scholarly' writing to be taken seriously, he should invest in a spell checker. Maybe a special, intertextual spellchecker to challenge his mighty intellect.
Re: Yeah that was Nic Bullen
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:02 am
by sprash
UFO over easy wrote:That guy comes across as incredibly bitter.
And Mick Harris didn't invent dubstep. It's an incredibly obvious sonic connection, but just as obviously completely unconnected to anything or anyone that actually helped the scene develop.
I would also suggest that if he wants anything he writes about 'scholarly' writing to be taken seriously, he should invest in a spell checker. Maybe a special, intertextual spellchecker to challenge his mighty intellect.
Hey, easy man. I quoted nic Bullen out of a completely different discussion on the Wire magazine. Obviously this was somewhat out of context... so if you're interested follow the thread I linked earlier.
To Mick's defense, he has never claimed to have invented dubstep (Nic was making that claim) --- yes Mick's the guy who has always pushed sonic boundaries and Scorn has never belonged to any one genre.. how different is Vae Solis from say Plan B?!
I daresay he has always been 5-10 years ahead of his time...
.... also Scorn's influence is very apparent in the 'dubstep' scene.... and I can see how dubstep was spawned from his sound and others....
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:23 am
by stormfield
Scorn's always sounded like Scorn... though some of his beats can be easily mixed with tracks by Komonazmuk & White Boi, Vex'd, Distance, Tes la Rok, ScanOne, Blackmass, Elemental, Reso and more... quite handy
On a side note, has anyone checked out his dark ambient project "Lull"? Deep, subtle nightmarish atmospheres, brilliant if you're into that sort of thing.
He also did a few industrial techno tracks as "Monrella."
Re: Yeah that was Nic Bullen
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:16 pm
by sully_shanks
On a personal level, I found the Burial album rather dull (I'm not particularly into cheesy harmonies on synth presets)
what the fuck is that all about?
Re: Yeah that was Nic Bullen
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:58 pm
by ufo over easy
sprash wrote:
Hey, easy man. I quoted nic Bullen out of a completely different discussion on the Wire magazine. Obviously this was somewhat out of context... so if you're interested follow the thread I linked earlier.
To Mick's defense, he has never claimed to have invented dubstep
I know, I'm a big mick harris fan.. his music anyway. That chap you quoted comes across as completely up his own arse though still. Overconfidence and self importance combined total ignorance isn't brilliant.
sprash wrote:.... also Scorn's influence is very apparent in the 'dubstep' scene.... and I can see how dubstep was spawned from his sound and others....
Naaah.. Compared to Horsepower/Ghost Trax etc Scorn had next to nothing to do with spawning dubstep, no matter how much Plan B might sound similar.
Re: Yeah that was Nic Bullen
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:54 pm
by sprash
UFO over easy wrote:
That chap you quoted comes across as completely up his own arse though still. Overconfidence and self importance combined total ignorance isn't brilliant.
huh? how easily you judge people? While I don't necessarily agree with his views, he is obviously entitled to his own opinions just as you are to yours. Splel chcekers?! Sheesh...Grow up!
UFO over easy wrote:
Naaah.. Compared to Horsepower/Ghost Trax etc Scorn had next to nothing to do with spawning dubstep, no matter how much Plan B might sound similar.
The link is obvious to at least my ears....
Re: Yeah that was Nic Bullen
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:55 pm
by sprash
sully_shanks wrote:
On a personal level, I found the Burial album rather dull (I'm not particularly into cheesy harmonies on synth presets)
what the fuck is that all about?
Actually burial didn't cut it for me either.... I prefer more angry beats like those from White boi, Vex'd etc...
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:58 pm
by sprash
stormfield wrote:Scorn's always sounded like Scorn... though some of his beats can be easily mixed with tracks by Komonazmuk & White Boi, Vex'd, Distance, Tes la Rok, ScanOne, Blackmass, Elemental, Reso and more... quite handy
On a side note, has anyone checked out his dark ambient project "Lull"? Deep, subtle nightmarish atmospheres, brilliant if you're into that sort of thing.
He also did a few industrial techno tracks as "Monrella."
Agreed 100%.
Lull is fantastic...pure darkness. We might have a new Lull either this year or next. We might also have Mick playing in painkiller again