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Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:29 pm
by esfandyar
Neptune wrote:Personally, I don't think I could go through with an abortion. I'd have the child, then give it up for adoption. I do think women have the right to choose though; it's her body. And there would be a whole load of complications if you ban abortion. However, abortion is a quite mentally scarring process. My friend used to counsel women who had gone through abortion, and said it was absolutely awful. A lot of the women had named their child and would say '_____ would have been _____ years old now'. And the women who's abortion meant that they couldn't have kids in the future were really fucked up.
they are really really traumatic, but in the end most women who I know had them were glad they did, no matter how hard it was and still is for them in most cases.
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:29 pm
by Neptune
svpreme wrote:Butt Jolokia is a reprehensible person...I don't really understand why the mods are trying to get rid of all the abuse hurled at him. It's one of those rare cases in which it's completely fucking justified, and it's sad that he isn't called out on this shit more often.
No one should ever be insulted because of their views!
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:30 pm
by yoowan
we have laws to protect our liberty
a woman's liberty is not protected if she is not permitted to have an abortion before the 24th week
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:30 pm
by Liam92
oops didnt mean to post...
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:30 pm
by collige
butt jolokia wrote:collige wrote:
Since that's out of the question, we have to talk about the life of a human individual. Which begs the question: what constitutes a human individual? I don't think a heartless, brainless, arguably soulless, mass of cells is comparable to a person nor do I think it has more of a right to live than a dolphin or ape that has the intellectual capacity of a child.
It's irrelevant to your first "point".
My frist point is that both sperm and eggs are alive before conception and your argument is based off the concept of life, without explicitly stating that we're talking about human life. Since neither of us have any regard for the lives of sperm and eggs, I fail to see why this changes the nanosecond a sperm gets inside of an egg.
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:30 pm
by pkay
what if the baby was the anti-christ?
or what if the baby would grow up to kill billions of people?
what if Terminator came back from the future and told you "this chicks baby is going to rape your future baby and you're going to have a future rape grandchild who in turn activates skynet"
Don't you want to stop the rape baby before he activates skynet Butt? Jesus would
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:32 pm
by butt jolokia
collige wrote:butt jolokia wrote:collige wrote:
Since that's out of the question, we have to talk about the life of a human individual. Which begs the question: what constitutes a human individual? I don't think a heartless, brainless, arguably soulless, mass of cells is comparable to a person nor do I think it has more of a right to live than a dolphin or ape that has the intellectual capacity of a child.
It's irrelevant to your first "point".
My frist point is that both sperm and eggs are alive before conception and your argument is based off the concept of life, without explicitly stating that we're talking about human life. Since neither of us have any regard for the lives of sperm and eggs, I fail to see why this changes the nanosecond a sperm gets inside of an egg.
Because THAT'S the moment of conception.
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:32 pm
by esfandyar
pkay wrote: Jesus would
Jesus cares
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:33 pm
by cityzen
Neptune wrote:Personally, I don't think I could go through with an abortion.....
Morning after pill though??
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:35 pm
by pkay
true story
the eggs you eat for breakfast are more complex than the "life" at conception
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:35 pm
by butt jolokia
pkay wrote:what if the baby was the anti-christ?
or what if the baby would grow up to kill billions of people?
what if Terminator came back from the future and told you "this chicks baby is going to rape your future baby and you're going to have a future rape grandchild who in turn activates skynet"
Don't you want to stop the rape baby before he activates skynet Butt? Jesus would
1. the anti-chirst won't be born
2. how do you know if your baby will grow to kill billions of people? try raising the child rights.
3. time travel doesn't exist and terminator is a movie.
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:39 pm
by Mr Hyde
butt jolokia wrote:pkay wrote:what if the baby was the anti-christ?
or what if the baby would grow up to kill billions of people?
what if Terminator came back from the future and told you "this chicks baby is going to rape your future baby and you're going to have a future rape grandchild who in turn activates skynet"
Don't you want to stop the rape baby before he activates skynet Butt? Jesus would
1. the anti-chirst won't be born
2. how do you know if your baby will grow to kill billions of people? try raising the child rights.
3. time travel doesn't exist and terminator is a movie.
Surely Jesus can time travel?
Christian God hardly seems to have led by example if all life is sacred, didn't he flood and drown everyone and everything that wasn't on the arc?
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:39 pm
by Liam92
butt jolokia wrote:pkay wrote:what if the baby was the anti-christ?
or what if the baby would grow up to kill billions of people?
what if Terminator came back from the future and told you "this chicks baby is going to rape your future baby and you're going to have a future rape grandchild who in turn activates skynet"
Don't you want to stop the rape baby before he activates skynet Butt? Jesus would
3. time travel doesn't exist and terminator is a movie.

Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:39 pm
by Kodachrome
butt jolokia wrote:
3. time travel doesn't exist and terminator is a movie.
lolololololololololololololololololololololololololol
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:40 pm
by Pada
butt jolokia wrote:pkay wrote:what if the baby was the anti-christ?
or what if the baby would grow up to kill billions of people?
what if Terminator came back from the future and told you "this chicks baby is going to rape your future baby and you're going to have a future rape grandchild who in turn activates skynet"
Don't you want to stop the rape baby before he activates skynet Butt? Jesus would
1. the anti-chirst won't be born
2. how do you know if your baby will grow to kill billions of people? try raising the child rights.
3. time travel doesn't exist and terminator is a movie.
Miracles don't happen and the bible is just a book.
lol sorry I'm not even anti christian
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:40 pm
by Neptune
cityzen wrote:Neptune wrote:Personally, I don't think I could go through with an abortion.....
Morning after pill though??
yeah yeah
i think more girls (esp underage girls) should have the implant.
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:40 pm
by Pada
seems some people got there before me haha
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:41 pm
by butt jolokia
Mr Hyde wrote:butt jolokia wrote:pkay wrote:what if the baby was the anti-christ?
or what if the baby would grow up to kill billions of people?
what if Terminator came back from the future and told you "this chicks baby is going to rape your future baby and you're going to have a future rape grandchild who in turn activates skynet"
Don't you want to stop the rape baby before he activates skynet Butt? Jesus would
1. the anti-chirst won't be born
2. how do you know if your baby will grow to kill billions of people? try raising the child rights.
3. time travel doesn't exist and terminator is a movie.
Surely Jesus can time travel?
Christian God hardly seems to have led by example if all life is sacred, didn't he flood and drown everyone and everything that wasn't on the arc?
So, do you take the stories in the bible literally, or metaphorically ?
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:43 pm
by collige
butt jolokia wrote:
Because THAT'S the moment of conception.
The significance of that being?
Re: Abortion Thread. KEEP IT CIVIL!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:43 pm
by pkay
butt jolokia wrote:pkay wrote:what if the baby was the anti-christ?
or what if the baby would grow up to kill billions of people?
what if Terminator came back from the future and told you "this chicks baby is going to rape your future baby and you're going to have a future rape grandchild who in turn activates skynet"
Don't you want to stop the rape baby before he activates skynet Butt? Jesus would
1. the anti-chirst won't be born
2. how do you know if your baby will grow to kill billions of people? try raising the child rights.
3. time travel doesn't exist and terminator is a movie.
let me school you on your own religion
Anyone who denys christ is an antichrist. I'm an antichrist, many people on this forum are 'antichrists'. The one who rises to power, spoken of in your religious texts, is one of many but rises to prominence. He/she is a human like every other antichrist. Not some magical unicorn riding figure. Simply a human, denier of christ, who gains world power.
This has been volume one of a Jew teaching christians their own religion because they apparently don't read their bible verses.
Volume 2: Why you're going to hell
PS: Time travel does exist, humans simply cannot survive the speeds at which you are required to travel to manipulate space time. Machines can. It has been proven during space exploration that small advances in time have occurred and that with speed gain the time traveled increased.