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Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:52 am
by kay
pete bubonic wrote:Nothing but love for Skream. Th magnetic man thing as a whole ain't for me. But I can see its merits an why it's so popular. Skreams a G. Was bumping Bahl Fwd just last night, too catchy!
One thing I don't get though, 90% of any dubstep head I know loves Skream and says irl or on here or the net in general, why do guys when they get some mainstream love focus on the negative vibes so much? Skream only needs to go to dmz or fwd to see how much the heads still rate him?
I think it was the last couple DMZ birthdays where his sets didn't go down as well. With the people who posted here anyway. The majority of the people who were there seemed to enjoy it immensely. I guess when you've been involved with the forum as long as he has then when something negative is posted here about a set or two then it feels a lot more negative than it ought to in the grand scheme of things.
It was a good article. Surprised they let it through with so many expletives though!
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:56 am
by LGBT
fractal wrote:i'm still reeling from the freeizms!
Big up Skream !
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:03 pm
by Graftadj
He's just a hard working down to earth guy, good read... bet he's a fucking laugh to get pissed with lol
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:59 pm
by pompende
hasezwei wrote:well... respect to the man for working his ass off to feed his family. honestly, after all that's what we're here for in this world and he's found a way to do it that makes countless people around the globe happy.
this logic makes me fucking crazy. olly makes it out like he has only two options: be a superstar dj or work a shitty desk job.
there are actually lots of financially
and emotionally rewarding jobs out there. and, to be frank, im confident that being superstar dj isn't one of them as it necessitates a lot of time spent a lot of time spent away from home. and theres a lot more to being a father, for instance, than sending cheques home to wifey.
i guess man is hoping he can transition into such a prominent and highly paid position that he can play just 3 or 4 gigs a year?
he's lucky that he started out the way he did. his old fans aren't so fickle or ready to write-off artists as mainstream listeners are. he'll still have an audience when the masses turn their backs on him.
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:04 pm
by pompende
southstar wrote:Shouldnt have to come on here to explain yourself but big ups anyways
seriously.
no one's pissed at skream.
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:48 pm
by JBoy
pompende wrote:southstar wrote:Shouldnt have to come on here to explain yourself but big ups anyways
seriously.
no one's pissed at skream.
Shows that he still cares though, sounds like hes still got his feet placed firmly on the ground.
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:58 pm
by Raad
pompende wrote:hasezwei wrote:well... respect to the man for working his ass off to feed his family. honestly, after all that's what we're here for in this world and he's found a way to do it that makes countless people around the globe happy.
this logic makes me fucking crazy. olly makes it out like he has only two options: be a superstar dj or work a shitty desk job.
He never has? He has always just said that he ENJOYS making all sorts of music (which shows on his productions) and that he's going to keep on doing what he does because he ENJOYS it. Never seen/heard him cite money as a reason for playing the big crowds. It's just one of the things he likes I guess.
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:44 pm
by pompende
Raad wrote:Never seen/heard him cite money as a reason for playing the big crowds. It's just one of the things he likes I guess.
yeah its fun.
skream wrote:"My musical career is all I can do. If this fell through tomorrow, I'd be fucked," he admits. "I'm not being a fucking junkie, not being one of them guys down the dole office every day. I need to be a respectable person, someone who can take his family on holiday.
but he's got such a strong work ethic and sharp mind that this simply isn't the case.
dude can do whatever the fuck he wants but i think its absurd to defend being a career dj with anything other than "its fun"
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:21 pm
by fractal
i don't understand your point tbf? i think fun is the most important aspect of a career
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:31 pm
by Allupin Yogrill
More like Dutch Flowerz please.
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:07 pm
by bobsabarker
i have respect for skream RELEASING these "older" sounding tunes to satisfy the original fans, but what good is that if when you go see him play out and you hear nothing but brostep trash? those tunes rarely get a play. i passed up seeing Benga here in Orlando for that very reason. the scene here is getting pretty bad. i remember a time when mala and starkey came through, now its nothin but filth.
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:00 am
by Figment
Nothing but love for the Skream.
Trying to justify any legitimate hate for the guy would be like trying to justify piracy, imo.
love his old stuff, love his new stuff, he's a very versatile producer, and his new stuff shows it.
as far as him playing more 'brostep' as such live, i dunno, i mean if he's playing out a big dance music festival, i think you have to expect it, it's a dance music festival, i can respect that, i definately love his older stuff more, but i can understand and respect that he plays to the wants of the crowds, can't you just enjoy the fact your watching the don play tunes to you?
Big ups Skream.
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:44 am
by rightcoastn
facts for thought : it's hard to make enough money to support a family as a dj/producer without selling out
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:58 am
by vishes
Not hating on Skream, got mad respect for the guy, but saying that going mainstream is the only way to be able to support and provide your family is just a bit exaggerated I think.
Look at Mala, he has a kid, but he's doing none of that.
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:52 am
by dopocc
Osario wrote:mad respect for skream
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:08 am
by Phyalow
respec
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:30 am
by mikey-bizzle-09
Love old Skream tunes and i love new Skream tunes! The guy van do no wrong imo! Some of the 'Brostep' he plays out is a bit much and some of it i really like
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:49 am
by LA_Boxers
fractal wrote:i don't understand your point tbf? i think fun is the most important aspect of a career
This.
Would love to have a job where I could really enjoy what I did.......and get paid well for it!
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:55 am
by pompende
fractal wrote:i don't understand your point tbf? i think fun is the most important aspect of a career
maybe you're thinking I said that one shouldn't have a fun career? i think its a perfectly valid reason to choose a career, my point was that there are actually many fun careers out there that also benefit the world outside your close friends and family. And you can still take your family on vacations on the salary the provide...
vishes wrote:Not hating on Skream, got mad respect for the guy, but saying that going mainstream is the only way to be able to support and provide your family is just a bit exaggerated I think.
one of my close friends growing up is the daughter of a very poor but very well respected musician. I'm sure molly would have loved growing up in the lap of luxury but she's pretty damn happy with her life regardless. and her parents are happy that eugene never had to spend more than a couple months out of the year on the road. there's a lot to be said for intangibles.
LA_Boxers wrote:fractal wrote:i don't understand your point tbf? i think fun is the most important aspect of a career
This.
Would love to have a job where I could really enjoy what I did.......and get paid well for it!
everyone would like that! but the fact that very, very, very few people can get a job that they enjoy (regardless of pay) has quite a lot to do with entities like Columbia Records.
I'm not saying its wrong to work for a major label and court mainstream success. I'm just saying there's nothing commendable about it. It's the easiest thing to do, in a sense.
and...ummmm.....idk...registered nurses get paid peanuts for literally saving people's lives...i'm sure that seems like a non-sequitor to many... i assure you it is on topic.
Re: "Skream, and the perils of going pop" - The Guardian
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:01 am
by pompende
oh and of course its worth mentioning that i know that i know nothing about the personal lives of people who decide to work for multinational corporations. for all i know they really do need to be paid hundreds of thousands to deal with the terminal illness of a family member, perhaps. or maybethey live perfectly humble, normal lives, donating their absurd excesses to the needy. i really do not know but i do know most people get by very well on much less.