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horsefeather wrote:

charliefoy wrote:

NickReplay wrote:

horsefeather wrote:

rorz9992 wrote:Got a question I think I know the answer to but just want to check.
If I have a wav of something that was only released digitally, am I OK to have a dubplate cut of the track (considering the record label has the copyright of the track etc)?

its also ok to cut a free tune to an acetate ?

no, this isn't legal

If you ask the producer (released or unreleased) and they say yes then there is no problem

thanks for the answer

Like it matters.. it's for your own use, no ones going to care, how is it any different from burning it to a cd?

horsefeather wrote:

rorz9992 wrote:Got a question I think I know the answer to but just want to check.
If I have a wav of something that was only released digitally, am I OK to have a dubplate cut of the track (considering the record label has the copyright of the track etc)?

its also ok to cut a free tune to an acetate ?

only thing u gotta watch for is that its a wav, lots of free tunes are only 320s. other than that, no worries

Surely to cut someone else's tune to dubplate, you'd have to mail the original producer and get an unmastered wav, and have that mastered for vinyl, because a wav mastered for CD or digital isn't really gonna work on a dubplate...

Anyone in the UK have a few suggestions of some reputable, affordable cutting places? Thinking of getting a few bits done, and I'm pretty sure there's no-one cutting anything in Ireland.

dididub wrote:

droogie wrote:
What about selling second hand cd's on discogs like?It's all a bit of a greyzone i think.If i cut a dubplate and then sold it down the line i wouldn't feel bad.Cause no doubt purchasing a brand new wav woulda been the cheaper option for whoever was buying it from me.

Yeah but what if someone cut two wav's of haunted/anti war dub whacked a white label on it, and started selling it as dmz007?

Granted, you'd have to be pretty stupid to buy it, but even so, some people would.

if you have dmz wavs, you don't have them legitimately. they only sold as mp3s and only for a short time. unless you're turning your mp3s into wavs, which is pretty dumb.

frankiegrimes wrote:Surely to cut someone else's tune to dubplate, you'd have to mail the original producer and get an unmastered wav, and have that mastered for vinyl, because a wav mastered for CD or digital isn't really gonna work on a dubplate...

Anyone in the UK have a few suggestions of some reputable, affordable cutting places? Thinking of getting a few bits done, and I'm pretty sure there's no-one cutting anything in Ireland.

Im fairly sure that when a DJ gives away a free tune in WAV it's totally unmastered(might be a few exceptions obviously) sure there was a thread here where someone said they got a 320 cut and it sounded fine.

As for places to get cut

http://www.dub-plates.org/ (AKA transition)

http://www.dubstudio.co.uk/ (Website seems to be down at the moment)

droogie wrote:

frankiegrimes wrote:Surely to cut someone else's tune to dubplate, you'd have to mail the original producer and get an unmastered wav, and have that mastered for vinyl, because a wav mastered for CD or digital isn't really gonna work on a dubplate...

Anyone in the UK have a few suggestions of some reputable, affordable cutting places? Thinking of getting a few bits done, and I'm pretty sure there's no-one cutting anything in Ireland.

Im fairly sure that when a DJ gives away a free tune in WAV it's totally unmastered(might be a few exceptions obviously) sure there was a thread here where someone said they got a 320 cut and it sounded fine.

As for places to get cut

http://www.dub-plates.org/ (AKA transition)

http://www.dubstudio.co.uk/ (Website seems to be down at the moment)

Yeah.. you can cut anything really. It obviously won't sound as good as a mastered record but it will work, that's what the cutting engineers job is.

south3rn wrote:

dididub wrote:

droogie wrote:
What about selling second hand cd's on discogs like?It's all a bit of a greyzone i think.If i cut a dubplate and then sold it down the line i wouldn't feel bad.Cause no doubt purchasing a brand new wav woulda been the cheaper option for whoever was buying it from me.

Yeah but what if someone cut two wav's of haunted/anti war dub whacked a white label on it, and started selling it as dmz007?

Granted, you'd have to be pretty stupid to buy it, but even so, some people would.

if you have dmz wavs, you don't have them legitimately. they only sold as mp3s and only for a short time. unless you're turning your mp3s into wavs, which is pretty dumb.

nope anti-war dub was on some planet mu comp a while back, same for haunted i think (different label though)

RightOnTime27 wrote:

south3rn wrote:

dididub wrote:

droogie wrote:
What about selling second hand cd's on discogs like?It's all a bit of a greyzone i think.If i cut a dubplate and then sold it down the line i wouldn't feel bad.Cause no doubt purchasing a brand new wav woulda been the cheaper option for whoever was buying it from me.

Yeah but what if someone cut two wav's of haunted/anti war dub whacked a white label on it, and started selling it as dmz007?

Granted, you'd have to be pretty stupid to buy it, but even so, some people would.

if you have dmz wavs, you don't have them legitimately. they only sold as mp3s and only for a short time. unless you're turning your mp3s into wavs, which is pretty dumb.

nope anti-war dub was on some planet mu comp a while back, same for haunted i think (different label though)

So has anyone done this? That MAH comp has a lot of OOP classics. What would the cutting house say if you mailed them a CD and you wanted tracks x, y and z pressed.
On a side note I remember vestax made a press for home use.

Mr_Frost wrote:

RightOnTime27 wrote:

south3rn wrote:

dididub wrote:

droogie wrote:
On a side note I remember vestax made a press for home use.

It costs 3 grand and the blanks cost nearly as much as a dubplate!

Also, its' not going to be a great deal of good to you unless you know how to master tracks properly!

epochalypso wrote:i heard this phrex guy really likes dubplates

Making a trip to Transition on Friday to get my first ever dubs cut! Cannot wait!!

bass_culture wrote:Making a trip to Transition on Friday to get my first ever dubs cut! Cannot wait!!

Nice one mate. What are you cutting? One of your own tunes?

vishes wrote:

bass_culture wrote:Making a trip to Transition on Friday to get my first ever dubs cut! Cannot wait!!

Nice one mate. What are you cutting? One of your own tunes?

Not my own stuff, I don't produce. I'm getting six tunes cut from 3 local producers here in Leicester

Ah I see Sick.

south3rn wrote:

dididub wrote:

droogie wrote:
What about selling second hand cd's on discogs like?It's all a bit of a greyzone i think.If i cut a dubplate and then sold it down the line i wouldn't feel bad.Cause no doubt purchasing a brand new wav woulda been the cheaper option for whoever was buying it from me.

Yeah but what if someone cut two wav's of haunted/anti war dub whacked a white label on it, and started selling it as dmz007?

Granted, you'd have to be pretty stupid to buy it, but even so, some people would.

if you have dmz wavs, you don't have them legitimately. they only sold as mp3s and only for a short time. unless you're turning your mp3s into wavs, which is pretty dumb.

i have mud/rufage on wav. it was the only dmz released as wav/flac when they were all up on bleep. i'm a wierdo who won't buy mp3s, just wav/flacs, so it's the only one i got. am still a bit gutted i missed out on the rest, but then again, i don't do 320's, so it's fair enough.

Cutting a WAV onto a Dubplate is no different than burning it to a CD, surely? I dont see why you would need permission.

RightOnTime27 wrote:

south3rn wrote:

dididub wrote:

droogie wrote:
What about selling second hand cd's on discogs like?It's all a bit of a greyzone i think.If i cut a dubplate and then sold it down the line i wouldn't feel bad.Cause no doubt purchasing a brand new wav woulda been the cheaper option for whoever was buying it from me.

Yeah but what if someone cut two wav's of haunted/anti war dub whacked a white label on it, and started selling it as dmz007?

Granted, you'd have to be pretty stupid to buy it, but even so, some people would.

if you have dmz wavs, you don't have them legitimately. they only sold as mp3s and only for a short time. unless you're turning your mp3s into wavs, which is pretty dumb.

nope anti-war dub was on some planet mu comp a while back, same for haunted i think (different label though)

planet mu isn't dmz

frankiegrimes wrote:Surely to cut someone else's tune to dubplate, you'd have to mail the original producer and get an unmastered wav, and have that mastered for vinyl, because a wav mastered for CD or digital isn't really gonna work on a dubplate...

So? Do it

I've done it before. They're usually chuffed to know someone wants to get their tune cut at great personal expense.

I have dubs!!

Had a really great time in Transition on Friday getting 3 10"s cut. Also had a fantastic chat with Leon about dubstep and the future of vinyl culture, top bloke! Definitely recommend Transition to people who are considering getting this done!

Few quick questions for people who have experience with acetates...

i) How do you keep your dubs clean? eg. type of cloth/cleaning solutions

ii) What sort of tracking weight do you tend to use to play then? - I have Shure Whitelabels.

iii) Any tips on making the hole in the centre a bit bigger so they're easier to mix with? I know scissors work for vinyl, but aluminum is a bit tougher!!

Peace

a round file?