Re: Previously Good Dubstep Producers/Labels Making Bland Ho
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:33 pm
dunno but I love it and Ive never ever been into house xD
vax wrote:Labels and producers that were responsible for such game-changing sounds focus their energy on producing and releasing stuff that fits a template established decades ago and using sound palettes that have been done to death for just as long, simply for the retro throwback nostalgia feel. It's mind boggling the dude responsible for Disko Rekah and Goat Stare has a label that's releasing something as lackluster as Sicko Cell.
With electronic music, you literally have the capacity to create any sound that your brain can conjure up. That's one of the beauties of it. With a little bit of technical knowledge, you can create sounds that are aesthetically pleasing, get people dancing, and at the same time, are sounds that never existed in the natural world until recently. Dubstep had that spark of enthusiasm for creative sound design (and still does, brostep or deep), but house music crafted almost entirely with stock drum samples and un-altered single oscillator synths, while still entertaining to drunk people on a dance floor, lacks that entirely.
And yes I know that different people have different tastes, and that some people love it. This is the internet and I'm merely expressing my disappointment in this particular direction and why.
So everything is ok as long as it's brostep? I'm not saying the man doesn't enjoy this music or whatever, I'm just saying that Radiohead, as well as other mainstream acts, are riding this electronic music hype that's on right now. I guess it's beneficial for both parties involved, but dunno, never really understood bandwagoning.computerface wrote:Can't stand people thinking that Radiohead getting involved with bass music is just some ploy to stay relevant and market records - well no shit they want to stay relevant, but it's not like they're exploiting it for cash or anything like that. Thom Yorke regularly posts mixes and tunes on their site - Burial, Ramadanman, you name it - that he's been listening to and enjoying. If he wants to bring that music to his fans and expose them to good tunes, why shouldn't he? It's more people listening to the good stuff, it's not like he's pushing brostep or something like that.ultraspatial wrote:I get you mate, nothing can compare with Vex'd or Headhunter or older Kode9, Appleblim etc. There's still loads of good tunes though, look at the stuff Keysound's pushing for instance. I mostly dislike the hype around this, mainstream artists like Radiohead getting into it (even though it sounds good, I still view it as an attempt to remain relevant to new generations), people marketing dubstep, garage, house whatever as "bass music" and so on. At least there's quality grime being pushed again
the dance needs dancers too! everyone can't be a dj/producer!phaeleh wrote:I think more people should get into production so they can spend less time worrying about what everyone else is doing...
I dunno man, Radiohead have been on the experimental electronic flex for sometime. Best example has gotta be "Idioteque" off "Kid A". That came out in what, 2000/2001? The sort of track that wouldn't sound out place if it was released today IMO.ultraspatial wrote:So everything is ok as long as it's brostep? I'm not saying the man doesn't enjoy this music or whatever, I'm just saying that Radiohead, as well as other mainstream acts, are riding this electronic music hype that's on right now. I guess it's beneficial for both parties involved, but dunno, never really understood bandwagoning.computerface wrote:Can't stand people thinking that Radiohead getting involved with bass music is just some ploy to stay relevant and market records - well no shit they want to stay relevant, but it's not like they're exploiting it for cash or anything like that. Thom Yorke regularly posts mixes and tunes on their site - Burial, Ramadanman, you name it - that he's been listening to and enjoying. If he wants to bring that music to his fans and expose them to good tunes, why shouldn't he? It's more people listening to the good stuff, it's not like he's pushing brostep or something like that.ultraspatial wrote:I get you mate, nothing can compare with Vex'd or Headhunter or older Kode9, Appleblim etc. There's still loads of good tunes though, look at the stuff Keysound's pushing for instance. I mostly dislike the hype around this, mainstream artists like Radiohead getting into it (even though it sounds good, I still view it as an attempt to remain relevant to new generations), people marketing dubstep, garage, house whatever as "bass music" and so on. At least there's quality grime being pushed again
Why not? I know not everyone's cut out to be the next Mala on the buttons, or Youngsta on the decks, but I think with a little bit of knowledge about production or DJing goes a long way into appreciating the sound and, in a way, pushing the quality and diversity of the sound further.fractal wrote:the dance needs dancers too! everyone can't be a dj/producer!phaeleh wrote:I think more people should get into production so they can spend less time worrying about what everyone else is doing...
Silly cynical view to have - Thom Yorke and Radiohead have been into and heavy influenced by EDM and other electronic music for years and years. Have you even properly listened to Radiohead or Thom Yorke's music? Does it really sound like music made by the type of people to follow the latest trends and jump on the latest bandwagons? Not at all. They're one of the most innovative and forward thinking bands around and have been for years.ultraspatial wrote:So everything is ok as long as it's brostep? I'm not saying the man doesn't enjoy this music or whatever, I'm just saying that Radiohead, as well as other mainstream acts, are riding this electronic music hype that's on right now. I guess it's beneficial for both parties involved, but dunno, never really understood bandwagoning.computerface wrote:Can't stand people thinking that Radiohead getting involved with bass music is just some ploy to stay relevant and market records - well no shit they want to stay relevant, but it's not like they're exploiting it for cash or anything like that. Thom Yorke regularly posts mixes and tunes on their site - Burial, Ramadanman, you name it - that he's been listening to and enjoying. If he wants to bring that music to his fans and expose them to good tunes, why shouldn't he? It's more people listening to the good stuff, it's not like he's pushing brostep or something like that.ultraspatial wrote:I get you mate, nothing can compare with Vex'd or Headhunter or older Kode9, Appleblim etc. There's still loads of good tunes though, look at the stuff Keysound's pushing for instance. I mostly dislike the hype around this, mainstream artists like Radiohead getting into it (even though it sounds good, I still view it as an attempt to remain relevant to new generations), people marketing dubstep, garage, house whatever as "bass music" and so on. At least there's quality grime being pushed again
or if you don't have a camera with video-filming capabilities you could always just take two photos throughout the duration of the night (flash optional) and if there is significant change between body positioning in both photos then that is proof movement has occurred and therefore you moved and techno is quite good and stuff so I think this thread should be locked now as to prevent any further unneccesary discussion clouding what has been a pretty in-depth evaluation and conclusion of the current state of electronic dancing music.wobbles wrote:go to a night where they play techno and try not moving yo body i dare u and if u do pull it off pics or it didnt happen, but since u cant really capture the absense of movement for sure in a still picture u must take a video and just send it to me in the mail or whatever is convenient for u/ you can email it too if u want