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oski wrote:

dsprainman wrote:I mean, do you like pick a certain place to drop the beat in? Haha help a noob out

yeah tunes are generally arranged in 16 bar sections so you wanna start the tune you're bringing in at the first beat of a 16 bar section

to op: been mixing 2 years took me about a year before i was confident enough to leave my room with it. My mixing in my room is getting to quite a good level.. live is a different story

that 16bar thing is what ive tried to use but i sometimes just forget about it lol thats when my mixing goes dow the shitter all about concetration.

mixing since a year or so. recording mixes as well (see below!)
count 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 then mix the tune in . will usually sound good then . 4 bar sections ,,

ni en bhed wrote:mixing since a year or so. recording mixes . some people in my soundcloud seem so like it .
count 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 then mix the tune in . will usually sound good then . 4 bar sections ,,

This! really your going to have to count the whole song until you just end up doing it by nature. What I would do is literally just listen to music and count bars in my head until I just got the hang of it. Just keep on it.

Eventually you won't even have to count. You will just know

yeh i don't think you really need to count but i can see how it would help beginners i guess

DZA wrote:Since 2009

you were buying/collecting all that grime prior to this though no? would'nt have thought it possible, maybe financially so, to have such a wicked collection without buying up at the time

8months ago

18 years

Foul Matta wrote:

Raziel wrote:

Hyacinth wrote:Few years now. Was obsessed with the techniques surrounding it for awhile. Now I'm not as into the tricks surrounding mixing. Only concern myself with a single rythme and by far the most important bit, a good song selection. I think 95% of club / party listeners are content if you play the songs they like.

Definitely agree with that, tune selection comes first in my books

Personally disagree. Anyone can put a "decent" tune into a cdj or on a turntable and press play. i understand 90%ish of ya crowd aint got a scoob what ya doing and only care bout tune selection. But when a DJ pulls off a silly mix be that 3 decking, double drop or just a real nice smooth transition. Thats what does it for me personally. And even if a DJ has a spot on selection if hes clanging, then it completley kills the vibe of the set and I personally don't want to hear another second. Also especially in this genre you should always play what you're feeling and what you believe in. If you're feeling it and the crowd can see that, then they will (should) feel it too.

Don't think as DJ's any of us feel differently about the importance of strong DJ'ing. We're that 5% that take the mixing to heart. Few things though.

- Not anybody can put a "decent" tune in. Can't tell you how many times I've seen random cats get kicked off the decks for playing music nobody wanted to here. Song selection in a mix goes beyond the individual tunes used and becomes a composite, even when the mixing isn't stellar.

- I wish that last sentence were true. If you're a big DJ and people are paying for the name as much as the music its not to difficult to play more or less whatever you feel (Zomby) but if you're just holding down another night at some no name club you'd do well to play some stuff people can dance to while not having to think to much.

Thats the appeal of places with great nightlife, there's a shitty club for all us weirdos

37 YEARS

Raggles wrote:37 YEARS

Representing since the early days of disco, Raggles has seen it all.

leyenda303 wrote:

Raggles wrote:37 YEARS

Representing since the early days of disco, Raggles has seen it all.

i heard he learnt from Francis Grasso himself!

raggles big in the game still

grillis wrote:yeh i don't think you really need to count but i can see how it would help beginners i guess

DZA wrote:Since 2009

you were buying/collecting all that grime prior to this though no? would'nt have thought it possible, maybe financially so, to have such a wicked collection without buying up at the time

Nope started buying grime in 2009 too, that shit hit my wallet hard but i managed it

I've been buying records ever since I can remember coz my Dad is a massive vinyl freak, so early hardcore and jungle from when I was about 11 or 12... then I got into mixing properly when I was about 14, I'm 28 now, got on my first pirate at 15 when I used to play UK Garage...never looked back since

For about a year when I bought my first pair of 1210's. been absolutely sold since then. Been practicing for hours everyday since then.

When I started out the only way I was able to beatmatch was when I started a tune at the 4th or 8th bar of each phrase(didn't know shit about phrasing), so I would match the tune on the snare. That also meant I could only start mixing when the beat of the record I was bringing in was started. Thought I did kind'a good back, now I've realised it was utter shit.

Been buying records for 10 years but only started DJing just short of 2 years ago (was always surrounded by amazing DJ's so convinced myself there was no point trying) Starting to play out more regularly now. Gotta shout out my man DJ Syte for helping me progress. Shameless plug but playing alongside Versa, Rowl, Occult & Syte nexx week and it's FREE if anybody's in London on Thurs....

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Hyacinth wrote:

Foul Matta wrote:

Raziel wrote:

Hyacinth wrote:Few years now. Was obsessed with the techniques surrounding it for awhile. Now I'm not as into the tricks surrounding mixing. Only concern myself with a single rythme and by far the most important bit, a good song selection. I think 95% of club / party listeners are content if you play the songs they like.

Definitely agree with that, tune selection comes first in my books

Personally disagree. Anyone can put a "decent" tune into a cdj or on a turntable and press play. i understand 90%ish of ya crowd aint got a scoob what ya doing and only care bout tune selection. But when a DJ pulls off a silly mix be that 3 decking, double drop or just a real nice smooth transition. Thats what does it for me personally. And even if a DJ has a spot on selection if hes clanging, then it completley kills the vibe of the set and I personally don't want to hear another second. Also especially in this genre you should always play what you're feeling and what you believe in. If you're feeling it and the crowd can see that, then they will (should) feel it too.

Don't think as DJ's any of us feel differently about the importance of strong DJ'ing. We're that 5% that take the mixing to heart. Few things though.

- Not anybody can put a "decent" tune in. Can't tell you how many times I've seen random cats get kicked off the decks for playing music nobody wanted to here. Song selection in a mix goes beyond the individual tunes used and becomes a composite, even when the mixing isn't stellar.

- I wish that last sentence were true. If you're a big DJ and people are paying for the name as much as the music its not to difficult to play more or less whatever you feel (Zomby) but if you're just holding down another night at some no name club you'd do well to play some stuff people can dance to while not having to think to much.

Thats the appeal of places with great nightlife, there's a shitty club for all us weirdos

I see what you're saying. But if youv been booked by a promoter then they should be booking you for your style. I mean don't get me wrong if im playing a proper deep eyes down set and no one seems to be feeling it ill up the tempo and play slightly more hype. But theres a line i feel. And i certainly wont throw on any Datsik or Flux just cos some gurned up raver told me to put on some real "Dubstep"

Foul Matta wrote:

Hyacinth wrote:

Foul Matta wrote:

Raziel wrote:

Hyacinth wrote:Few years now. Was obsessed with the techniques surrounding it for awhile. Now I'm not as into the tricks surrounding mixing. Only concern myself with a single rythme and by far the most important bit, a good song selection. I think 95% of club / party listeners are content if you play the songs they like.

Definitely agree with that, tune selection comes first in my books

Personally disagree. Anyone can put a "decent" tune into a cdj or on a turntable and press play. i understand 90%ish of ya crowd aint got a scoob what ya doing and only care bout tune selection. But when a DJ pulls off a silly mix be that 3 decking, double drop or just a real nice smooth transition. Thats what does it for me personally. And even if a DJ has a spot on selection if hes clanging, then it completley kills the vibe of the set and I personally don't want to hear another second. Also especially in this genre you should always play what you're feeling and what you believe in. If you're feeling it and the crowd can see that, then they will (should) feel it too.

Don't think as DJ's any of us feel differently about the importance of strong DJ'ing. We're that 5% that take the mixing to heart. Few things though.

- Not anybody can put a "decent" tune in. Can't tell you how many times I've seen random cats get kicked off the decks for playing music nobody wanted to here. Song selection in a mix goes beyond the individual tunes used and becomes a composite, even when the mixing isn't stellar.

- I wish that last sentence were true. If you're a big DJ and people are paying for the name as much as the music its not to difficult to play more or less whatever you feel (Zomby) but if you're just holding down another night at some no name club you'd do well to play some stuff people can dance to while not having to think to much.

Thats the appeal of places with great nightlife, there's a shitty club for all us weirdos

I see what you're saying. But if youv been booked by a promoter then they should be booking you for your style. I mean don't get me wrong if im playing a proper deep eyes down set and no one seems to be feeling it ill up the tempo and play slightly more hype. But theres a line i feel. And i certainly wont throw on any Datsik or Flux just cos some gurned up raver told me to put on some real "Dubstep"

Yeah no one's saying you should switch from dubstep to brostep just because of the crowd, that obviously would be a promoter fail as they'd have booked you for the wrong event.

And i'm not saying you should be totally focused on tune selection before you've even learnt how to beat match (your reference to clangers), but I feel good mixing comes with time as you become better aquainted with your cd selection and goes hand in hand with tune selection - You can play a track, read the crowds reaction, then select the next tune you feel they're gonna like, and most likely its two tracks you've mixed before, in which case you put a bit of flare on it and show your DJ skills, but there's really no point in awesome mixing if people aren't in to the tracks currently playing, it'l just wash over their heads.

And i'm totally for sticking to your own style and gaining a reputation because of the way you mix and the selection you bring, but you can't rely on the crowd to always 'feel what your feeling', most of the time because everyone's shitfaced, but also because you just can't expect everyone to like it the way you do, i mean i wish everyone liked bassweight but it's not the case!

Also not to be a buzzkill on the whole fun of things, but at the end of the day, if you've been booked as a DJ, you're being paid to entertain, that is your job, until you've gained enough reputation to start being booked in specific places for your style, you've got to be flexible and besides, you don't have to feel like you're selling your soul, I enjoy switching it up everyone now and then, more fun for me and the crowd, all about the element of suprise when used wisely

round about a year - gotta laptop setup using a Numark controller (yes I know, very basic) but I'm looking to get onto CDs/serato before long.
I've tried mixing with vinyl/vinyl serato but they weren't great for me to start with. However 1 day I'm sure I'll get some decks so that I can be able to work with all formats

About 10 years! The first vinyl I ever bought was Bad Company - The Nine

same around 10 years i have been making mixes in some shape or form.