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posting to watch

looking out for it this time

streams up http://www.ustream.tv/channel/krinkl3fri3s

I'll be down to do another Ustream soon. I very much like the idea of working on something in front of other people that can provide helpful insight and tips, or possibly even learn something by watching and asking me questions.

I really think this would be a great thread to make a sticky! Honestly, have you ever thought of the possibilities of getting tons of producers of different skill levels all working on music live and giving eachother feedback on the fly? Fuck chatroulette, how about chatdubstep! =]

Agreed ^ I think this should be a sticky.

I just still don't quite understand what software one would use to get the video AND sound streaming from your computer...

everything can`t be a sticky

I'm prepared to do some work with Reason - but my stream will be like 2hours/3hours.

I'll stream if anyone is interested... it's going to be the most boring/time consuming thing to watch though. :E

brettheaslewood wrote:I'm prepared to do some work with Reason - but my stream will be like 2hours/3hours.

please do i wanna see someone else reason's workflow

I'll stream tomorrow, had to do some other stuff today. I got it set-up though so it'll be a breeze when I do it.

daeMTHAFKNkim wrote:I'll stream tomorrow, had to do some other stuff today. I got it set-up though so it'll be a breeze when I do it.

what daw are you using?

ehbrums1 wrote:

daeMTHAFKNkim wrote:I'll stream tomorrow, had to do some other stuff today. I got it set-up though so it'll be a breeze when I do it.

what daw are you using?

I'm using Ableton Live nowadays but all my old work has been on FL Studio. I'll just load up some old songs just show my techniques/layering that in songs so you guys can throw some tips at me/learn whatever. I'll share whatever is useful. I honestly don't care for anyone then picks up on how I produce/what I do. I don't get why people get really secure about their production. No one can steal the musical part from another artists imo.

That said, I suck at producing Lol.

If you are having trouble setting up a stream to share audio as well as your desktop screen then here is my quick and down to the point tutorial (Okay, its not so quick, but it works). Currently this will only work for Mac users as I haven't attempted this on a PC yet. I imagine the process would be pretty much the exact same with the the Windows equivalent of the software I have listed though.

Things you will need: Ustream or another streaming site, a DAW obviously (I use ableton live), soundflower, audacity, and camtwist.

Lets get started, first go and download soundflower from here: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/14067/soundflower
Next you will want to download camtwist: http://camtwist.en.softonic.com/mac
And lastly you are going to be using audacity for the purpose of routing your audio so you can hear the audio output of your DAW on your end: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Start out by going into your DAW and going to preferences. Under the audio tab (if you're using ableton), you are going to want to set your audio output to Soundflower (2ch) (2 in, 2 out).
Now you might have noticed that when you try to play the audio, there is no sound. Don't panic, as addergebroed would say. =p

Now open up audacity, and go into preferences. Under audio playback device, leave that the way it is. Go down to where it says "recording device" and select Soundflower (2ch). Make sure where it says "channels" it is set to "2 (stereo)". Click the record button, and now your audio is being routed from ableton into audacity which is allowing you to hear what is coming from ableton. This is setting you up to share your DAW audio through Ustream, as well as hear it as you produce. Without audacity, only the people watching your stream will hear the audio once you have set up your stream, and you will get no signal to work with on your end. After you have done all this however, you should be ready to share your audio as you produce and hear it also.

Now for the video/screensharing side of things. Open camtwist now. You can set up your stream any way you would like, you can even add visual effects or scrolling text, though visual effects are completely a bad idea if you want people to actually see your screen. Look for the "tools" menu at the very top and click "preview" to see what your stream will look like. To share your desktop screen (probably your DAW) you will select "Desktop" in the video sources menu on the left. If you want to also use your webcam, then select "webcam" in the left menu also. Now you will see that under the 3rd window on the right that says "step 3", the effects in use will be "desktop" and "pip webcam". Click on the "pip webcam" and adjust the picture to size if you want to share a webcam stream of yourself, and your desktop at the same time. Also go into camtwist preferences and under the "general" tab, select soundflower (2 ch) as your audio output. Note that i'm unsure if this step is necessary, but thats how mine is set, and it works, so it would probably be a good idea. At this point everything is pretty much set up correctly. EDIT*** I had huge problems using the default picture quality of camtwist when sharing my screen. It was too blurry to see my screen. To get better quality, open up "preferences" in camtwist, and click on the "general" tab. You should look for where it says "video size" and set this to the highest setting. It may be necessary to click "custom" from the drop down menu, and set your video size manually. My ideal video size is 1440 x 1080. Also, you are required to restart camtwist for the changes to take effect. Screen looks perfect at that setting for me, but if you are using the PIP webcam, your webcam will be a little laggy. I'd rather have a nice screen feed than worry about my webcam though. Also, to test out if your screen is blurry, right underneath the "preview" option, you can click "full screen" and select "color lcd" to preview your stream in fullscreen. This is exactly how it will appear to others.

Now here is the MOST important step of all. You must do this for all this hard work to pay off! Camtwist will not be recognized by Ustream if you open your browser in 64-bit mode. To fix this, go into your applications folder, and look for the web browser icon that you use (in my case it is safari). Right click on the web browser icon and select "get info". In the menu that pops up, you will see a box that says "open in 32-bit mode", check that box, and make sure none of the other boxes are checked. Restart your web browser completely at this point, and make sure that every window in your web browser is closed before you open your web browser again.

Finally, the last and easiest step. Navigate in your web browser to Ustream, and assuming you already have an account set up, click the "go live" button in the top right hand corner. It will open up a window and a flash menu will pop up. Make sure to click "allow" obviously. You can close this flash window, and look for the 2 drop down boxes that say "video source" and "audio source". Under video source, select camtwist. You will now see the template you made in camtwist open. Under "audio source" select soundflower (2 ch), and now your audio from the DAW you are using is audible to your audience. You can now start your broadcast and you are ready for the world to watch you produce, as well as listen to everything you are doing. There is only 1 downside however. Since your audio input is your audio stream coming out of your DAW, you cant use a mic to communicate, you must type in the text chat section. One workaround that I haven't tried, is to route an audio channel in your DAW to take an input from whatever mic you use, that way you can use your DAW as a mixer for your computer mic, or other microphone source, and it should be going through soundflower to your audience. This took ages to write, so ENJOY!

Sonika wrote:Agreed ^ I think this should be a sticky.

I just still don't quite understand what software one would use to get the video AND sound streaming from your computer...

If you are on Mac, read the post I just made in this thread. If you are on PC, then all the programs I listed that you need should have some other counterpart for Windows.

jeeze at that point just like 3 instances of massive would overload my macbook

Immerse wrote:jeeze at that point just like 3 instances of massive would overload my macbook

I hear ya on that man. Wish there was an easier route, but its tough to share your screen and audio simultaneously, and hear your audio as well, without having to run up a bit of cpu. I did have some issues with my processor overloading a bit in ableton, and it was somewhat of an annoyance. I would recommend bouncing things down as frequently as possible, because last time I did a stream, I had to go through everything that wasn't already bounced down, and freeze/flatten. Do this ahead of time if you wanna work on a track that is already in the works over Ustream. If you are starting on a new track, just remember to keep bouncing things down to keep your cpu stable. It's already a pretty standard process to bounce everything down even if you aren't streaming, so it shouldn't be that bad. The results are very good though if you have the processing power to handle it.

Starting my stream now. Ill be working from scratch here. Lets see what I can accomplish. =]

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/altron64

Altron wrote:If you are having trouble setting up a stream to share audio as well as your desktop screen then here is my quick and down to the point tutorial (Okay, its not so quick, but it works). Currently this will only work for Mac users as I haven't attempted this on a PC yet. I imagine the process would be pretty much the exact same with the the Windows equivalent of the software I have listed though.

Things you will need: Ustream or another streaming site, a DAW obviously (I use ableton live), soundflower, audacity, and camtwist.

Lets get started, first go and download soundflower from here: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/14067/soundflower
Next you will want to download camtwist: http://camtwist.en.softonic.com/mac
And lastly you are going to be using audacity for the purpose of routing your audio so you can hear the audio output of your DAW on your end: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Start out by going into your DAW and going to preferences. Under the audio tab (if you're using ableton), you are going to want to set your audio output to Soundflower (2ch) (2 in, 2 out).
Now you might have noticed that when you try to play the audio, there is no sound. Don't panic, as addergebroed would say. =p

Now open up audacity, and go into preferences. Under audio playback device, leave that the way it is. Go down to where it says "recording device" and select Soundflower (2ch). Make sure where it says "channels" it is set to "2 (stereo)". Click the record button, and now your audio is being routed from ableton into audacity which is allowing you to hear what is coming from ableton. This is setting you up to share your DAW audio through Ustream, as well as hear it as you produce. Without audacity, only the people watching your stream will hear the audio once you have set up your stream, and you will get no signal to work with on your end. After you have done all this however, you should be ready to share your audio as you produce and hear it also.

Now for the video/screensharing side of things. Open camtwist now. You can set up your stream any way you would like, you can even add visual effects or scrolling text, though visual effects are completely a bad idea if you want people to actually see your screen. Look for the "tools" menu at the very top and click "preview" to see what your stream will look like. To share your desktop screen (probably your DAW) you will select "Desktop" in the video sources menu on the left. If you want to also use your webcam, then select "webcam" in the left menu also. Now you will see that under the 3rd window on the right that says "step 3", the effects in use will be "desktop" and "pip webcam". Click on the "pip webcam" and adjust the picture to size if you want to share a webcam stream of yourself, and your desktop at the same time. Also go into camtwist preferences and under the "general" tab, select soundflower (2 ch) as your audio output. Note that i'm unsure if this step is necessary, but thats how mine is set, and it works, so it would probably be a good idea. At this point everything is pretty much set up correctly.

Now here is the MOST important step of all. You must do this for all this hard work to pay off! Camtwist will not be recognized by Ustream if you open your browser in 64-bit mode. To fix this, go into your applications folder, and look for the web browser icon that you use (in my case it is safari). Right click on the web browser icon and select "get info". In the menu that pops up, you will see a box that says "open in 32-bit mode", check that box, and make sure none of the other boxes are checked. Restart your web browser completely at this point, and make sure that every window in your web browser is closed before you open your web browser again.

Finally, the last and easiest step. Navigate in your web browser to Ustream, and assuming you already have an account set up, click the "go live" button in the top right hand corner. It will open up a window and a flash menu will pop up. Make sure to click "allow" obviously. You can close this flash window, and look for the 2 drop down boxes that say "video source" and "audio source". Under video source, select camtwist. You will now see the template you made in camtwist open. Under "audio source" select soundflower (2 ch), and now your audio from the DAW you are using is audible to your audience. You can now start your broadcast and you are ready for the world to watch you produce, as well as listen to everything you are doing. There is only 1 downside however. Since your audio input is your audio stream coming out of your DAW, you cant use a mic to communicate, you must type in the text chat section. One workaround that I haven't tried, is to route an audio channel in your DAW to take an input from whatever mic you use, that way you can use your DAW as a mixer for your computer mic, or other microphone source, and it should be going through soundflower to your audience. This took ages to write, so ENJOY!

Will be trying this, I hope it doesn't overload my CPU

Sonika wrote:

Altron wrote:If you are having trouble setting up a stream to share audio as well as your desktop screen then here is my quick and down to the point tutorial (Okay, its not so quick, but it works). Currently this will only work for Mac users as I haven't attempted this on a PC yet. I imagine the process would be pretty much the exact same with the the Windows equivalent of the software I have listed though.

Things you will need: Ustream or another streaming site, a DAW obviously (I use ableton live), soundflower, audacity, and camtwist.

Lets get started, first go and download soundflower from here: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/14067/soundflower
Next you will want to download camtwist: http://camtwist.en.softonic.com/mac
And lastly you are going to be using audacity for the purpose of routing your audio so you can hear the audio output of your DAW on your end: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Start out by going into your DAW and going to preferences. Under the audio tab (if you're using ableton), you are going to want to set your audio output to Soundflower (2ch) (2 in, 2 out).
Now you might have noticed that when you try to play the audio, there is no sound. Don't panic, as addergebroed would say. =p

Now open up audacity, and go into preferences. Under audio playback device, leave that the way it is. Go down to where it says "recording device" and select Soundflower (2ch). Make sure where it says "channels" it is set to "2 (stereo)". Click the record button, and now your audio is being routed from ableton into audacity which is allowing you to hear what is coming from ableton. This is setting you up to share your DAW audio through Ustream, as well as hear it as you produce. Without audacity, only the people watching your stream will hear the audio once you have set up your stream, and you will get no signal to work with on your end. After you have done all this however, you should be ready to share your audio as you produce and hear it also.

Now for the video/screensharing side of things. Open camtwist now. You can set up your stream any way you would like, you can even add visual effects or scrolling text, though visual effects are completely a bad idea if you want people to actually see your screen. Look for the "tools" menu at the very top and click "preview" to see what your stream will look like. To share your desktop screen (probably your DAW) you will select "Desktop" in the video sources menu on the left. If you want to also use your webcam, then select "webcam" in the left menu also. Now you will see that under the 3rd window on the right that says "step 3", the effects in use will be "desktop" and "pip webcam". Click on the "pip webcam" and adjust the picture to size if you want to share a webcam stream of yourself, and your desktop at the same time. Also go into camtwist preferences and under the "general" tab, select soundflower (2 ch) as your audio output. Note that i'm unsure if this step is necessary, but thats how mine is set, and it works, so it would probably be a good idea. At this point everything is pretty much set up correctly.

Now here is the MOST important step of all. You must do this for all this hard work to pay off! Camtwist will not be recognized by Ustream if you open your browser in 64-bit mode. To fix this, go into your applications folder, and look for the web browser icon that you use (in my case it is safari). Right click on the web browser icon and select "get info". In the menu that pops up, you will see a box that says "open in 32-bit mode", check that box, and make sure none of the other boxes are checked. Restart your web browser completely at this point, and make sure that every window in your web browser is closed before you open your web browser again.

Finally, the last and easiest step. Navigate in your web browser to Ustream, and assuming you already have an account set up, click the "go live" button in the top right hand corner. It will open up a window and a flash menu will pop up. Make sure to click "allow" obviously. You can close this flash window, and look for the 2 drop down boxes that say "video source" and "audio source". Under video source, select camtwist. You will now see the template you made in camtwist open. Under "audio source" select soundflower (2 ch), and now your audio from the DAW you are using is audible to your audience. You can now start your broadcast and you are ready for the world to watch you produce, as well as listen to everything you are doing. There is only 1 downside however. Since your audio input is your audio stream coming out of your DAW, you cant use a mic to communicate, you must type in the text chat section. One workaround that I haven't tried, is to route an audio channel in your DAW to take an input from whatever mic you use, that way you can use your DAW as a mixer for your computer mic, or other microphone source, and it should be going through soundflower to your audience. This took ages to write, so ENJOY!

Will be trying this, I hope it doesn't overload my CPU

Just download Xsplit....I said that about 3 times in this thread.

Or if you're using ustream get ustream producer. Has a button to click if you want to stream audio, and another button to click to stream your computer screen.