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Hircine wrote:Political power comes from the people. People delegate that power to fair judges (some John Locke swagggg).

i don't get your point here.

Hircine wrote:If the soldiers didn't want to risk their lives or didn't want to invade afghanistan they should've deserted or never volunteered at all, it was their choice, not some politic organization's.

whilst i would encourage soldiers to desert rather than go to afghanistan (and i am committing a crime by writing that, unlike the post this thread is about), it's not always that simple:

kay wrote:I could be wrong, but I believe Bad Things happen to soldiers who desert.

also, they probably knew little about afghanistan before they got there. their intentions were almost certainly far better than the war they ended up taking part in.

all i'm tryiing to do is give reasons why british soldiers who've gone to afghanistan should be treated with a certain level of respect. this may be pointless, since all the posters in this thread seem to agree.

wub wrote:Wonder if the 8 people who liked it will be rounded up as well.

thats what i was thinking. I don't understand how the police catch these people on facebook. Are these guys so stupid not to lock their facebook from the public or have we started getting facebook snitches?

jigglypuff wrote:

wub wrote:Wonder if the 8 people who liked it will be rounded up as well.

thats what i was thinking. I don't understand how the police catch these people on facebook. Are these guys so stupid not to lock their facebook from the public or have we started getting facebook snitches?

Find out what the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act is.

Fucking pigs

Were all doomed

Hircine wrote:

kay wrote:

Hircine wrote:

tyger wrote:

JBoy wrote:^No of course not. I dont think he understands how multi cultural the british army is, theres hundreds of pakistani's and muslims in the armed forces. What hope do we have as a nation when people on both sides of the spectrum refuse to accept one another.

irrelevant, because he wasn't (as i read it) trying to make a point about race.

his point was about biased coverage of the casualties on either side in the war, which he's right about.

though he also went to insult the memory of the dead british soldiers, which i dont' agree with but he is entitled to do. (the soldiers didn't decide we'd invade afghanistan, and doubtless thought they were being sent on a much more justifiable mission than what it turned out to be. and they and their families deserve some respect because they've died.)

Political power comes from the people. People delegate that power to fair judges (some John Locke swagggg). If the soldiers didn't want to risk their lives or didn't want to invade afghanistan they should've deserted or never volunteered at all, it was their choice, not some politic organization's.

I could be wrong, but I believe Bad Things happen to soldiers who desert.

The other option being murdering innocents and dying in a war that will accomplish nothing for the majority of mankind?

I believe that equating soldiers with people who went out there with the intention to murder innocents is wrong. Also, have you considered that perhaps at least a proportion of soldiers actually do want to go out there to help? I mean, clearly, you telling them how shit and pointless their loss of lives are is doing mankind a lot more good.

Hircine youre chatting complete shit like an ignorant little boy.

Yes soldiers know risk, yes they choose to join but that doesnt mean they deserve to die or that they have to kill innocent people, you actually make me laugh. Why are you posting like youre some modern version of malcolm x, fighting for the rights of oppressed people. You are most likely some rich teenager with a chip on youre shoulder.

soldiers generally don't go to afghanistan with the intention of murdering civilians, but they can end up in situations where they have little choice but to do precisely that.

telling them what they're doing is pointless - even more: telling their families after they've been killed - is unpleasant but truthful. actually, it's worse than pointless: their presence in afghanistan is making the situation worse.

War has changed

Its all about proxy wars etc

Saw a documentary

wobbles wrote:Saw a documentary

Kony 2012?

wow, no matter his opinion, being arrested for a Facebook post is INSANE

dark dark times

JBoy wrote: If he was that much of a dedicated musilm he'd go and fight for his cause instead of chatting shit online like a typical keboard warrior.

huh?

tyger wrote:soldiers generally don't go to afghanistan with the intention of murdering civilians, but they can end up in situations where they have little choice but to do precisely that.

telling them what they're doing is pointless - even more: telling their families after they've been killed - is unpleasant but truthful. actually, it's worse than pointless: their presence in afghanistan is making the situation worse.

Sorry what situations are these, id love to hear about them?

@noam - that statement didnt come across how i wanted it to if that makes sense.

ye i figured

Potentially a nice bit of online activism if everybody set their facebook status to what the kid wrote rofl... any big twitter/FB users fancy suggesting it to their followers/fb friends?

online activism lol

cosmic surgeon wrote:Potentially a nice bit of online activism if everybody set their facebook status to what the kid wrote rofl... any big twitter/FB users fancy suggesting it to their followers/fb friends?

lol would be a good idea until one of us ends up in guantanamo

jigglypuff wrote:

cosmic surgeon wrote:Potentially a nice bit of online activism if everybody set their facebook status to what the kid wrote rofl... any big twitter/FB users fancy suggesting it to their followers/fb friends?

lol would be a good idea until one of us ends up in guantanamo

cosmic surgeon wrote:

jigglypuff wrote:

cosmic surgeon wrote:Potentially a nice bit of online activism if everybody set their facebook status to what the kid wrote rofl... any big twitter/FB users fancy suggesting it to their followers/fb friends?

lol would be a good idea until one of us ends up in guantanamo

PICK MEEEEEEE

PICK MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

inb4 bro music torture @ Guantanamo.

If you can be arrested for opinions.

Bieber is not a well loved pop "sensation", he is nothing more than a popstar that uses auto-tune frequently. - FACT.


Cher Lloyd can sing. - Opinion.

Lock me up.