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Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:21 am**

davwuh wrote:same here pal, as you can probably tell from my tunes that sounds a big influence on me.. I'm guessing you're around the same age as me (early/mid-twenties), so we both grew up in UK cities and UK garage was the big sound for us growing up as kids.. so there's a childhood reminiscent aspect of it, with the triplet drums and deep basslines but Burial's sound also brings that urban England feeling to his music, that I think only guys who grew up in the UK can truly understand.. not to say others can't appreciate it, because Burial seems to be universally loved, which is awesome.. but tracks like 'In Mcdonalds', I think only someone from the UK can really "get" the unique emotion of that track for example. Not that I wanna sound exclusive, but I'm sure some guys from Eng-er-land will back me up on that

& yeah, when I first listened to Burial I loved it.. I'd been listening to dubstep for a while and liked DMZ and Skream 'n all that, but Burial was the first one that really clicked with me.. I've always been an "album" guy, rather than releases, so I was well into that aspect of it too, but the whole sound/atmosphere/emotion of that first album just sat right with me from the first time I heard it - like you said, the sound I'd been looking for my whole life

You realize McDonald's exists in other parts of the world, right? There's nothing UK-exclusive about the vibe in that track.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:27 am**

Maccaveli wrote:
davwuh wrote:same here pal, as you can probably tell from my tunes that sounds a big influence on me.. I'm guessing you're around the same age as me (early/mid-twenties), so we both grew up in UK cities and UK garage was the big sound for us growing up as kids.. so there's a childhood reminiscent aspect of it, with the triplet drums and deep basslines but Burial's sound also brings that urban England feeling to his music, that I think only guys who grew up in the UK can truly understand.. not to say others can't appreciate it, because Burial seems to be universally loved, which is awesome.. but tracks like 'In Mcdonalds', I think only someone from the UK can really "get" the unique emotion of that track for example. Not that I wanna sound exclusive, but I'm sure some guys from Eng-er-land will back me up on that

& yeah, when I first listened to Burial I loved it.. I'd been listening to dubstep for a while and liked DMZ and Skream 'n all that, but Burial was the first one that really clicked with me.. I've always been an "album" guy, rather than releases, so I was well into that aspect of it too, but the whole sound/atmosphere/emotion of that first album just sat right with me from the first time I heard it - like you said, the sound I'd been looking for my whole life
You realize McDonald's exists in other parts of the world, right? There's nothing UK-exclusive about the vibe in that track.

Haha, that's not the point.. It's about UK culture and night life, the comedown, the car lights going past as you're sat in the window seat, coming down off whatever etc

It's not about eating a cheap burger to some sorrowful ambient piece

Yeah, I'm sure everyone gets the vibe perfectly fine, but there's always that small aspect of Burial's sound that I think only British people can get because his sound is deep rooted in UK culture, he's pretty much said it himself in interviews.. even the cover of the first Burial album is an aerial phoot of london

Not interested in getting into an argument about it though, so take it or leave it

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:31 am**

davwuh wrote:
Maccaveli wrote:
davwuh wrote:same here pal, as you can probably tell from my tunes that sounds a big influence on me.. I'm guessing you're around the same age as me (early/mid-twenties), so we both grew up in UK cities and UK garage was the big sound for us growing up as kids.. so there's a childhood reminiscent aspect of it, with the triplet drums and deep basslines but Burial's sound also brings that urban England feeling to his music, that I think only guys who grew up in the UK can truly understand.. not to say others can't appreciate it, because Burial seems to be universally loved, which is awesome.. but tracks like 'In Mcdonalds', I think only someone from the UK can really "get" the unique emotion of that track for example. Not that I wanna sound exclusive, but I'm sure some guys from Eng-er-land will back me up on that

& yeah, when I first listened to Burial I loved it.. I'd been listening to dubstep for a while and liked DMZ and Skream 'n all that, but Burial was the first one that really clicked with me.. I've always been an "album" guy, rather than releases, so I was well into that aspect of it too, but the whole sound/atmosphere/emotion of that first album just sat right with me from the first time I heard it - like you said, the sound I'd been looking for my whole life
You realize McDonald's exists in other parts of the world, right? There's nothing UK-exclusive about the vibe in that track.
Haha, that's not the point.. It's about UK culture and night life, the comedown, the car lights going past as you're sat in the window seat, coming down off whatever etc

It's not about eating a cheap burger to some sorrowful ambient piece

Yeah, I'm sure everyone gets the vibe perfectly fine, but there's always that small aspect of Burial's sound that I think only British people can get because his sound is deep rooted in UK culture, he's pretty much said it himself in interviews.. even the cover of the first Burial album is an aerial phoot of london

Not interested in getting into an argument about it though, so take it or leave it

Yeah I'm not british but he has spoken about that fact at length in some of his interviews so I'm assuming there's some merit to it

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:44 am**

davwuh wrote:
Maccaveli wrote:
davwuh wrote:same here pal, as you can probably tell from my tunes that sounds a big influence on me.. I'm guessing you're around the same age as me (early/mid-twenties), so we both grew up in UK cities and UK garage was the big sound for us growing up as kids.. so there's a childhood reminiscent aspect of it, with the triplet drums and deep basslines but Burial's sound also brings that urban England feeling to his music, that I think only guys who grew up in the UK can truly understand.. not to say others can't appreciate it, because Burial seems to be universally loved, which is awesome.. but tracks like 'In Mcdonalds', I think only someone from the UK can really "get" the unique emotion of that track for example. Not that I wanna sound exclusive, but I'm sure some guys from Eng-er-land will back me up on that

& yeah, when I first listened to Burial I loved it.. I'd been listening to dubstep for a while and liked DMZ and Skream 'n all that, but Burial was the first one that really clicked with me.. I've always been an "album" guy, rather than releases, so I was well into that aspect of it too, but the whole sound/atmosphere/emotion of that first album just sat right with me from the first time I heard it - like you said, the sound I'd been looking for my whole life
You realize McDonald's exists in other parts of the world, right? There's nothing UK-exclusive about the vibe in that track.
Haha, that's not the point.. It's about UK culture and night life, the comedown, the car lights going past as you're sat in the window seat, coming down off whatever etc

It's not about eating a cheap burger to some sorrowful ambient piece

Yeah, I'm sure everyone gets the vibe perfectly fine, but there's always that small aspect of Burial's sound that I think only British people can get because his sound is deep rooted in UK culture, he's pretty much said it himself in interviews.. even the cover of the first Burial album is an aerial phoot of london

Not interested in getting into an argument about it though, so take it or leave it

Once again, none of these are exclusive to the UK. I guess I get what you mean, but there's still very little difference in that feeling whether you're from London, Melbourne or New York.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:58 am**

Maccaveli wrote:
davwuh wrote:
Maccaveli wrote:
davwuh wrote:same here pal, as you can probably tell from my tunes that sounds a big influence on me.. I'm guessing you're around the same age as me (early/mid-twenties), so we both grew up in UK cities and UK garage was the big sound for us growing up as kids.. so there's a childhood reminiscent aspect of it, with the triplet drums and deep basslines but Burial's sound also brings that urban England feeling to his music, that I think only guys who grew up in the UK can truly understand.. not to say others can't appreciate it, because Burial seems to be universally loved, which is awesome.. but tracks like 'In Mcdonalds', I think only someone from the UK can really "get" the unique emotion of that track for example. Not that I wanna sound exclusive, but I'm sure some guys from Eng-er-land will back me up on that

& yeah, when I first listened to Burial I loved it.. I'd been listening to dubstep for a while and liked DMZ and Skream 'n all that, but Burial was the first one that really clicked with me.. I've always been an "album" guy, rather than releases, so I was well into that aspect of it too, but the whole sound/atmosphere/emotion of that first album just sat right with me from the first time I heard it - like you said, the sound I'd been looking for my whole life
You realize McDonald's exists in other parts of the world, right? There's nothing UK-exclusive about the vibe in that track.
Haha, that's not the point.. It's about UK culture and night life, the comedown, the car lights going past as you're sat in the window seat, coming down off whatever etc

It's not about eating a cheap burger to some sorrowful ambient piece

Yeah, I'm sure everyone gets the vibe perfectly fine, but there's always that small aspect of Burial's sound that I think only British people can get because his sound is deep rooted in UK culture, he's pretty much said it himself in interviews.. even the cover of the first Burial album is an aerial phoot of london

Not interested in getting into an argument about it though, so take it or leave it
Once again, none of these are exclusive to the UK. I guess I get what you mean, but there's still very little difference in that feeling whether you're from London, Melbourne or New York.

I said everyone will get the vibe... Then I said there is that emotion only UK folk can understand, who have lived through that culture, and that feeling comes out in Burial's music dramatically.. read what I said. Doesn't really matter though - as I said, it's not an elitist or exclusive thing

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:11 am**

Maccaveli wrote: Once again, none of these are exclusive to the UK. I guess I get what you mean, but there's still very little difference in that feeling whether you're from London, Melbourne or New York.

We've got mcdonalds inna jungle too, nothing emo about it here though

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:28 am**

I feel so jealous.......

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:58 am**

Don't be jealous, the UK is shit mate.. be happy you live in a sunny country.. all we have is Burial and a dying football league and our 1 week of summer per year

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:05 pm**

davwuh wrote:
It's not about eating a cheap burger to some sorrowful ambient piece

tried this once, listened to In McDonalds while tucked into a Big Mac large meal inside my local McDonalds; was not emotional at all, just made me laugh like a crazy guy to myself lol

its most definitely the other point you made, as in how it was made for the time after when you're coming down off of whatever, just getting back home, reminiscing last night over a takeaway McMuffin... Cos i've done that as well and the whole album was much more fitting then

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:32 pm**

davwuh wrote:same here pal, as you can probably tell from my tunes that sounds a big influence on me.. I'm guessing you're around the same age as me (early/mid-twenties), so we both grew up in UK cities and UK garage was the big sound for us growing up as kids.. so there's a childhood reminiscent aspect of it, with the triplet drums and deep basslines but Burial's sound also brings that urban England feeling to his music, that I think only guys who grew up in the UK can truly understand.. not to say others can't appreciate it, because Burial seems to be universally loved, which is awesome.. but tracks like 'In Mcdonalds', I think only someone from the UK can really "get" the unique emotion of that track for example. Not that I wanna sound exclusive, but I'm sure some guys from Eng-er-land will back me up on that

& yeah, when I first listened to Burial I loved it.. I'd been listening to dubstep for a while and liked DMZ and Skream 'n all that, but Burial was the first one that really clicked with me.. I've always been an "album" guy, rather than releases, so I was well into that aspect of it too, but the whole sound/atmosphere/emotion of that first album just sat right with me from the first time I heard it - like you said, the sound I'd been looking for my whole life

the UK and England ain't the same place.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:00 pm**

Has anyone else read that Blackdown interview with Burial? I would definitely recommend it if you haven't.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:26 pm**

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:29 pm**

davwuh wrote:
Maccaveli wrote:
davwuh wrote:
Maccaveli wrote:
davwuh wrote:same here pal, as you can probably tell from my tunes that sounds a big influence on me.. I'm guessing you're around the same age as me (early/mid-twenties), so we both grew up in UK cities and UK garage was the big sound for us growing up as kids.. so there's a childhood reminiscent aspect of it, with the triplet drums and deep basslines but Burial's sound also brings that urban England feeling to his music, that I think only guys who grew up in the UK can truly understand.. not to say others can't appreciate it, because Burial seems to be universally loved, which is awesome.. but tracks like 'In Mcdonalds', I think only someone from the UK can really "get" the unique emotion of that track for example. Not that I wanna sound exclusive, but I'm sure some guys from Eng-er-land will back me up on that

& yeah, when I first listened to Burial I loved it.. I'd been listening to dubstep for a while and liked DMZ and Skream 'n all that, but Burial was the first one that really clicked with me.. I've always been an "album" guy, rather than releases, so I was well into that aspect of it too, but the whole sound/atmosphere/emotion of that first album just sat right with me from the first time I heard it - like you said, the sound I'd been looking for my whole life
You realize McDonald's exists in other parts of the world, right? There's nothing UK-exclusive about the vibe in that track.
Haha, that's not the point.. It's about UK culture and night life, the comedown, the car lights going past as you're sat in the window seat, coming down off whatever etc

It's not about eating a cheap burger to some sorrowful ambient piece

Yeah, I'm sure everyone gets the vibe perfectly fine, but there's always that small aspect of Burial's sound that I think only British people can get because his sound is deep rooted in UK culture, he's pretty much said it himself in interviews.. even the cover of the first Burial album is an aerial phoot of london

Not interested in getting into an argument about it though, so take it or leave it
Once again, none of these are exclusive to the UK. I guess I get what you mean, but there's still very little difference in that feeling whether you're from London, Melbourne or New York.
I said everyone will get the vibe... Then I said there is that emotion only UK folk can understand, who have lived through that culture, and that feeling comes out in Burial's music dramatically.. read what I said. Doesn't really matter though - as I said, it's not an elitist or exclusive thing

that emotion only UK folk can understand

it's not an elitist or exclusive thing

not an elitist or exclusive thing

ಠ_ಠ

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:43 pm**

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:08 pm**

-TraX- wrote:If music or art for any matter needed a 'point" per say , many many many creative minds over the years would be shit outta luck.

You are probably familiar with Sleep and Empire by Andy Warhol. Two extremely long movies in which very little happens. They are significant as art but in most peoples opinion unwatchable. 4′33″ by John Cage is also interesting and significant as art but having it on your mp3 would be rather pointless.

I'm not comparing any dubstep tunes to the things mentioned. I'm just saying that there's a difference between "art" and music/movies/pictures worth watching/listening to/looking at.

Maccaveli wrote:Still over-thinking it...

Maccaveli wrote:There's a difference between thinking deeply and over-analyzing it. If you desperately try to find the point in something you're not letting it naturally come to you.

I think you have the wrong idea but if you don't mind I won't debate this further. I think many of my thoughts about this are in this thread in some form already but I'd just like to add that I don't "try desperately to find the point". In my posts I've written down thoughts, things I ponder while listening to music because I find music as a phenomenon intriguing and worth thinking about.

Sonika wrote:Nope, not over-thinking it, it's okay to think deeply about music we love

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:28 pm**

I fucking hate Burial's music so god damn much.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:37 pm**

Always wonderful to see your thoughtful contributions, cornbreadddd.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:43 pm**

computerface wrote:Always wonderful to see your thoughtful contributions, cornbreadddd.

He has enriched the community so much.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:48 pm**

Cornbreadddd wrote:I fucking hate Burial's music so god damn much.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:49 pm**

Better than seeing the same "burial's music is so emotional" fanboy dickriding tbh.

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