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Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:19 am
by Efrafa11
ketamine wrote:JBoy wrote:I reckon every human being has it in them to be gay. Two thousand years of religion forced down everyones throat convincing people that being gay is wrong.
Nope. The fact that two human members of the same sex can't reproduce convinces me it's unnatural. And I have no "phobia". I'm not afraid of anything about these people. I'm not brainwashed. I just haven't allowed the media: tv shows, magazines & pop stars who force this non-natural lifestyle down everyones throats every chance they get to affect my reasoning on the subject. When two human members of the same sex bring forth offspring or reproduce asexually then we can have a discussion on homosexuality being Nature-al.
And Jboy if every human was gay there'd be no humans.
Since when was reproduction the benchmark of if someone loving some else is natural?
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:21 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
Efrafa11 wrote:ketamine wrote:JBoy wrote:I reckon every human being has it in them to be gay. Two thousand years of religion forced down everyones throat convincing people that being gay is wrong.
Nope. The fact that two human members of the same sex can't reproduce convinces me it's unnatural. And I have no "phobia". I'm not afraid of anything about these people. I'm not brainwashed. I just haven't allowed the media: tv shows, magazines & pop stars who force this non-natural lifestyle down everyones throats every chance they get to affect my reasoning on the subject. When two human members of the same sex bring forth offspring or reproduce asexually then we can have a discussion on homosexuality being Nature-al.
And Jboy if every human was gay there'd be no humans.
Since when was reproduction the benchmark of if someone loving some else is natural?
well, considering without reproduction, we wouldnt exist?
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:23 am
by ketamine
Efrafa11 wrote:ketamine wrote:JBoy wrote:I reckon every human being has it in them to be gay. Two thousand years of religion forced down everyones throat convincing people that being gay is wrong.
Nope. The fact that two human members of the same sex can't reproduce convinces me it's unnatural. And I have no "phobia". I'm not afraid of anything about these people. I'm not brainwashed. I just haven't allowed the media: tv shows, magazines & pop stars who force this non-natural lifestyle down everyones throats every chance they get to affect my reasoning on the subject. When two human members of the same sex bring forth offspring or reproduce asexually then we can have a discussion on homosexuality being Nature-al.
And Jboy if every human was gay there'd be no humans.
Since when was reproduction the benchmark of if someone loving some else is natural?
You can love whoever you want. "Homo-Sex-Uality" doesn't stop at love, and you know this.
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:24 am
by Efrafa11
Nevalo wrote:Efrafa11 wrote:ketamine wrote:JBoy wrote:I reckon every human being has it in them to be gay. Two thousand years of religion forced down everyones throat convincing people that being gay is wrong.
Nope. The fact that two human members of the same sex can't reproduce convinces me it's unnatural. And I have no "phobia". I'm not afraid of anything about these people. I'm not brainwashed. I just haven't allowed the media: tv shows, magazines & pop stars who force this non-natural lifestyle down everyones throats every chance they get to affect my reasoning on the subject. When two human members of the same sex bring forth offspring or reproduce asexually then we can have a discussion on homosexuality being Nature-al.
And Jboy if every human was gay there'd be no humans.
Since when was reproduction the benchmark of if someone loving some else is natural?
well, considering without reproduction, we wouldnt exist?
Okay, but that a bit null to my point.
You can reproduce without love.
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:25 am
by Soiree
ketamine wrote:
Of course you can have sex for more reasons than reproduction. That doesn't make two members of the same sex having it natural. If people want to live that way they have that choice, but no amount of celebrities choosing to live that way are going to make me accept it as Nature.
Ever heard the phrase
"I'm straight, but not narrow" get what that means? Explain to me WTF is "natural"? I bet you hunted lunch today, grow your own organic outdoor, built your own house, and practice the Amish Pagan lifestyle. Were pretty fucking far from "natural" these days. Maybe your cock belongs in a tnuc, but to question the nature of anyone elses love life without acceptance makes you an ignorant tnuc.
BTW, with out the queer influence there wouldn't be House Music.
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:26 am
by wolf89
Even if it wasn't natural Doesn't mean that gay people aren't going to feel exactly as strongly as you do towards girls but towards their own sex though.
What about bisexuals too?
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:28 am
by nowaysj
When you suddenly hear these natural arguments you know that you are entering the irrational, especially when every aspect of that person's existence/personality is entirely synthetic.
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:28 am
by Dub_freak
Something that is natural is something that occurs in nature right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual ... in_animals
And why the fuck should it matter if something isnt natural anyway? Im pretty sure the vast majority of things modern humans do is not natural.
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:29 am
by wormcode
It confuses me every time a friend of mine says "I don't care if they are gay as long as they don't try to touch my dick." Are you that conceited? Hahaha. Because every female is attracted to you and tries to feel you up too right...
Soiree your club advice might work, but I think it might also get you beat up tbh. A lot of people become very physically hostile when you imply or ask if they are gay.
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:30 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
Efrafa11 wrote:Nevalo wrote:Efrafa11 wrote:ketamine wrote:JBoy wrote:I reckon every human being has it in them to be gay. Two thousand years of religion forced down everyones throat convincing people that being gay is wrong.
Nope. The fact that two human members of the same sex can't reproduce convinces me it's unnatural. And I have no "phobia". I'm not afraid of anything about these people. I'm not brainwashed. I just haven't allowed the media: tv shows, magazines & pop stars who force this non-natural lifestyle down everyones throats every chance they get to affect my reasoning on the subject. When two human members of the same sex bring forth offspring or reproduce asexually then we can have a discussion on homosexuality being Nature-al.
And Jboy if every human was gay there'd be no humans.
Since when was reproduction the benchmark of if someone loving some else is natural?
well, considering without reproduction, we wouldnt exist?
Okay, but that a bit null to my point.
You can reproduce without love.
just realised you were talking about another point.... carry on
(sidenote, are you a nz'er?)
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:33 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
wormcode wrote:It confuses me every time a friend of mine says "I don't care if they are gay as long as they don't try to touch my dick." Are you that conceited? Hahaha. Because every female is attracted to you and tries to feel you up too right...
while you're right, you must remember, that A LOT of males (especially teens, early 20s/30s) are usually quite sexually active & (especially in clubs) will go out of their way to rub up to girls.
so just switch it up to being a homosexual male, wouldnt the thought process be the same, but instead of chasing girls, its guys?
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:34 am
by ketamine
Soiree wrote:ketamine wrote:
Of course you can have sex for more reasons than reproduction. That doesn't make two members of the same sex having it natural. If people want to live that way they have that choice, but no amount of celebrities choosing to live that way are going to make me accept it as Nature.
Ever heard the phrase
"I'm straight, but not narrow" get what that means? Explain to me WTF is "natural"? I bet you hunted lunch today, grow your own organic outdoor, built your own house, and practice the Amish Pagan lifestyle. Were pretty fucking far from "natural" these days. Maybe your cock belongs in a tnuc, but to question the nature of anyone elses love life without acceptance makes you an ignorant tnuc.
BTW, with out the queer influence there wouldn't be House Music.
It doesn't make me anything but a person telling the truth. Ignorance is that without knowledge. I know full well a homosexual human isn't operating within their natural setup. Thats not ignorance. I never judged them, but I'm not going to pretend its Natural either or be told i have a Phobia because I don't feed into the lifestyle.
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:35 am
by Dub_freak
ketamine wrote:Soiree wrote:ketamine wrote:
Of course you can have sex for more reasons than reproduction. That doesn't make two members of the same sex having it natural. If people want to live that way they have that choice, but no amount of celebrities choosing to live that way are going to make me accept it as Nature.
Ever heard the phrase
"I'm straight, but not narrow" get what that means? Explain to me WTF is "natural"? I bet you hunted lunch today, grow your own organic outdoor, built your own house, and practice the Amish Pagan lifestyle. Were pretty fucking far from "natural" these days. Maybe your cock belongs in a tnuc, but to question the nature of anyone elses love life without acceptance makes you an ignorant tnuc.
BTW, with out the queer influence there wouldn't be House Music.
It doesn't make me anything but a person telling the truth. Ignorance is that without knowledge. I know full well a homosexual human isn't operating within their natural setup. Thats not ignorance. I never judged them, but I'm not going to pretend its Natural either or be told i have a Phobia because I don't feed into the lifestyle.
Is posting on the internet part of the 'natural setup' of a human?
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:36 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
Dub_freak wrote:ketamine wrote:Soiree wrote:ketamine wrote:
Of course you can have sex for more reasons than reproduction. That doesn't make two members of the same sex having it natural. If people want to live that way they have that choice, but no amount of celebrities choosing to live that way are going to make me accept it as Nature.
Ever heard the phrase
"I'm straight, but not narrow" get what that means? Explain to me WTF is "natural"? I bet you hunted lunch today, grow your own organic outdoor, built your own house, and practice the Amish Pagan lifestyle. Were pretty fucking far from "natural" these days. Maybe your cock belongs in a tnuc, but to question the nature of anyone elses love life without acceptance makes you an ignorant tnuc.
BTW, with out the queer influence there wouldn't be House Music.
It doesn't make me anything but a person telling the truth. Ignorance is that without knowledge. I know full well a homosexual human isn't operating within their natural setup. Thats not ignorance. I never judged them, but I'm not going to pretend its Natural either or be told i have a Phobia because I don't feed into the lifestyle.
Is posting on the internet part of the 'natural setup' of a human?
social interaction: answer - yes
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:40 am
by Efrafa11
ketamine wrote:Efrafa11 wrote:ketamine wrote:JBoy wrote:I reckon every human being has it in them to be gay. Two thousand years of religion forced down everyones throat convincing people that being gay is wrong.
Nope. The fact that two human members of the same sex can't reproduce convinces me it's unnatural. And I have no "phobia". I'm not afraid of anything about these people. I'm not brainwashed. I just haven't allowed the media: tv shows, magazines & pop stars who force this non-natural lifestyle down everyones throats every chance they get to affect my reasoning on the subject. When two human members of the same sex bring forth offspring or reproduce asexually then we can have a discussion on homosexuality being Nature-al.
And Jboy if every human was gay there'd be no humans.
Since when was reproduction the benchmark of if someone loving some else is natural?
You can love whoever you want. "Homo-Sex-Uality" doesn't stop at love, and you know this.
Agreed, thats why you can't soley argue the point of sex if your argueing an all inclusive topic if
homosexuality is natural.
although to counter,
what about the literal hundreds of mammals observed to have homosexual sex?
Because they can't reproduce it makes that behavior of homosexual sex unnatural?
Again why is reproduction the benchmark of if homosexuality or more specificly to your recent posts why homosexual sex is a not natural occurrence?
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:41 am
by ketamine
Dub_freak wrote:ketamine wrote:Soiree wrote:ketamine wrote:
Of course you can have sex for more reasons than reproduction. That doesn't make two members of the same sex having it natural. If people want to live that way they have that choice, but no amount of celebrities choosing to live that way are going to make me accept it as Nature.
Ever heard the phrase
"I'm straight, but not narrow" get what that means? Explain to me WTF is "natural"? I bet you hunted lunch today, grow your own organic outdoor, built your own house, and practice the Amish Pagan lifestyle. Were pretty fucking far from "natural" these days. Maybe your cock belongs in a tnuc, but to question the nature of anyone elses love life without acceptance makes you an ignorant tnuc.
BTW, with out the queer influence there wouldn't be House Music.
It doesn't make me anything but a person telling the truth. Ignorance is that without knowledge. I know full well a homosexual human isn't operating within their natural setup. Thats not ignorance. I never judged them, but I'm not going to pretend its Natural either or be told i have a Phobia because I don't feed into the lifestyle.
Is posting on the internet part of the 'natural setup' of a human?
Did I say it was? Did I say I had no choice? Did i claim I was born posting on the Internet? That I can't help it? That Im an internetual and if you don't also post on the Internet youre ignorant & have netophobia?
No the Internet is not natural but an electric technological tool for has nothing to do with two males or females claiming their sexual lifestyle is natural & that if you don't agree there's something wrong with YOU, not them. Give me a break.
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:43 am
by nowaysj
To be fair, K is known for entering threads and making broad sweeping pronouncements about the relative naturalness of the topic being discussed.
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:48 am
by ketamine
I said nothing broad or sweeping. I was very specific. You just don't like what I'm saying. No amount of pressure or media mind washing is going to convince me 2 guys having sex is a natural act. They have the choice to do it, but you're wasting your breath attacking me for not feeding into it. They ain't never making babies.
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:49 am
by Dub_freak
So what's actually wrong with not being able to reproduce? Because at the moment it would actually be beneficial if humans stopped reproducing so much, especially in third world countries that are over populated.
Re: Homophobia?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:51 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
Dub_freak wrote:So what's actually wrong with not being able to reproduce? Because at the moment it would actually be beneficial if humans stopped reproducing so much, especially in third world countries that are over populated.
ironic statement considering most of those nations are whole-heartedly against homosexuality.