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Posted: **Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:21 pm**

Perej wrote:Swamp 81 is forward thinking bass music, especially when you compare it to straight dubstep. The reason it's forward thinking is because the artists on the label fuse different styles together from the past and present, which is what makes so many of the releases unique.

isnt that what dubstep was about?

Posted: **Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:19 pm**

dididub wrote:

Posted: **Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:48 pm**

Perej wrote: Swamp 81 is forward thinking bass music.

I actually think for the most part it's very backward thinking, but still "fresh" in some sense (at least some releases, some of them are god awful). Labels like Warp and Phutureshock are pushing truly forward thinking music.

Swamp are a good label, but I always feel like I'm hearing exactly what I expect from them (maybe because they built themselves on that sound), whereas there are other labels that shock me every release.

Posted: **Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:35 pm**

I think people are getting confused between what Loefah plays on Rinse and what he actually releases on Swamp 81. He's just been playing one of Happa's tunes, that's all. Last time I heard he wasn't signing anyone new. That's probably also why I kind of agree with this:

garethom wrote: Swamp are a good label, but I always feel like I'm hearing exactly what I expect from them (maybe because they built themselves on that sound), whereas there are other labels that shock me every release.

I don't think there's that much backward thinking stuff though (apart from Boddika with obvious nods to UR etc., Trusta maybe but that's a different approach). The references are there but it's a new spin on things and there's more variety than people give credit for.

tl;dr: pointless swamp talk

Posted: **Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:11 pm**

the-voice-of-reason wrote:
Raad wrote: The stuff from UK is still pretty distinct IMO. Maybe I'm not the most well-versed guy in the field but from what I've heard the stuff coming from the UK scene is often much more percussive which is something I like a lot.

I cant really agree with this , the stuff from the UK sounds pretty weak and unoriginal , I watched an interview with blawan and pariah , and they even commented the same about UK techno productions.
And as regards my comments about Swamp81 , I dont think Swamp is a bad label , they have released some fantastic music , I just don't think that it's an original label , but it seems to be the one jaded dubstep fans gravitate to because of lofhas involvement , they here the tune and think that what swamp are doing is pretty groundbreaking , where in essence you can find similar 'bass music' going back as far as 1985 , people just need to dig.

I've watched the video you're referring to and the point Blawan makes is that people dismiss and ignore the uk's rich history of proper techno despite being fans of "bass music" or whatever. If you're going to be so patronising it's probably best not to cite such a respectable source whose view is exactly the opposite of yours and to an extent critical of people such as yourself.

Posted: **Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:19 pm**

so this got a play on the Skream & Benga BBCR1 show. Skream said 'forthcoming on texture'. Will be very happy to have this. Been vibing on it all weekend.

Posted: **Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:17 am**

dididub wrote:
dsprainman wrote:
Nevalo wrote:
More the merrier. I love this sound.
x2

This is sick. I need to spend more time on this board.

THIS X 4

Posted: **Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:12 pm**

played on proper speaker tonight
is sick
if you can seperate form the internet hype in ur head and listen to it objectovely you wpould say yes this is ravey and relentless

Posted: **Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:45 pm**

Really like this remix, Happa is doing big things!

Posted: **Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:55 pm**

inv si le wrote:
dididub wrote:
dsprainman wrote:
Nevalo wrote:
More the merrier. I love this sound.
x2

This is sick. I need to spend more time on this board.
THIS X 4

If you want to include yourself with dsprainman's statement you need to multiply by 3/2.

Posted: **Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:34 am**

incnic wrote:played on proper speaker tonight
is sick
if you can seperate form the internet hype in ur head and listen to it objectovely you wpould say yes this is ravey and relentless

pretty much this

Posted: **Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:56 pm**

Moultz wrote:so this got a play on the Skream & Benga BBCR1 show. Skream said 'forthcoming on texture'. Will be very happy to have this. Been vibing on it all weekend.

surely he mean text not texture?

I wonder what the other side will be... I hope it's that weird jazzy/atonal number Four Tet played when he was on the Hessle rinse show.

Posted: **Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:15 am**

Although he is making tunes what sound like others, especially Karren on this rmx i still think at 15 he is going to be a name to watch out for. Maybe needs more time thought to develop!

Posted: **Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:38 am**

i'm gonna speak on a whole on this new techno craze and i think blawan has already mentioned this in an interview.

whilst the new techno coming out is good, it's really what british murder boys were doing 15+ years ago. do some research, know your history. really not worth the hype at all.

Posted: **Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:13 am**

dave clarke made bangen tekkers as well
do i know u lol?

Posted: **Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:24 am**

People look far far too much into music, if it sounds good, I like it, regardless!

Whether Happa is 15 or not, he's making some very good music, really enjoy his mixes too!

Posted: **Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:41 am**

nek minnit blawan making 90s gabber tunes

edit:

incnic wrote:dave clarke made bangen tekkers as well
do i know u lol?

nup don't think so :s

Posted: **Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:21 am**

wondered how this thread got to 3 pages as i dont think the tune is worth that hype. swamp arguments solves that conundrum

Posted: **Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:55 pm**

Blueshiva wrote:
dididub wrote:

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