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ljk32 wrote:

Fauster wrote:This is the first google result. That isn't what you're looking for? That site is great for learning/practicing beginning music theory.

Haha, I'm not too sure, anything that helps me with composing melodies really. Like, I can still get nice melodies by playing on my MIDI keyboard, but most of it is luck, like I hit random keys and eventually a combination works.

Thanks, I've been reading for this a while, it's helpful, a lot of stuff is hard to wrap my head around though. Rather than focusing how to read sheet music, what would be the best thing to look at to get me to the point where eventually I can make riffs on my keyboard while knowing what notes to press? I have a basic understanding of major and minor scales, but I have to think what note comes next in the scale, and I am pretty slow.

ljk32 wrote:

ljk32 wrote:

Fauster wrote:This is the first google result. That isn't what you're looking for? That site is great for learning/practicing beginning music theory.

Haha, I'm not too sure, anything that helps me with composing melodies really. Like, I can still get nice melodies by playing on my MIDI keyboard, but most of it is luck, like I hit random keys and eventually a combination works.

Thanks, I've been reading for this a while, it's helpful, a lot of stuff is hard to wrap my head around though. Rather than focusing how to read sheet music, what would be the best thing to look at to get me to the point where eventually I can make riffs on my keyboard while knowing what notes to press? I have a basic understanding of major and minor scales, but I have to think what note comes next in the scale, and I am pretty slow.

Honestly, in my opinion, being able to recognize intervals is the single most important thing in being able to play and recognize melodies by ear. It'll help you be able to hear something in your head and sit down and hammer it out on your controller right away. Here's a link to an interval ear-trainer. http://www.musictheory.net/exercises/ear-interval

Fauster wrote:

ljk32 wrote:

ljk32 wrote:

Fauster wrote:This is the first google result. That isn't what you're looking for? That site is great for learning/practicing beginning music theory.

Haha, I'm not too sure, anything that helps me with composing melodies really. Like, I can still get nice melodies by playing on my MIDI keyboard, but most of it is luck, like I hit random keys and eventually a combination works.

Thanks, I've been reading for this a while, it's helpful, a lot of stuff is hard to wrap my head around though. Rather than focusing how to read sheet music, what would be the best thing to look at to get me to the point where eventually I can make riffs on my keyboard while knowing what notes to press? I have a basic understanding of major and minor scales, but I have to think what note comes next in the scale, and I am pretty slow.

Honestly, in my opinion, being able to recognize intervals is the single most important thing in being able to play and recognize melodies by ear. It'll help you be able to hear something in your head and sit down and hammer it out on your controller right away. Here's a link to an interval ear-trainer. http://www.musictheory.net/exercises/ear-interval

Cool, thanks for the help, but I have no idea what I am doing there, like I have no idea what the correct answers are. I'm not good at intervals at all.

yes too much quoting! lol

when i said robert johnson invented music i wasn't being literal. i just meant to express my admiration for his contribution. i really like sea shanties, nd other folk music so i wasn't really doing down what came before.

about the post on the poll: i don't think that asking people if they are happy with the investment they made is psychologically impirically sound. not many will say the thing i spent ten years working on and possibly thousands of pounds on was in fact a total waste of time even if it was. that doesn't add weight to the other side of course, i just wouldn't trust any of the answers.

kidkunjer wrote:i don't think that asking people if they are happy with the investment they made is psychologically impirically sound. not many will say the thing i spent ten years working on and possibly thousands of pounds on was in fact a total waste of time even if it was. that doesn't add weight to the other side of course, i just wouldn't trust any of the answers.

I think that is a pretty reaching comment to make. To show you how silly, look what happens if I flip it to address your biases:

Since you have chosen not have any serious formal training, psychologically you (conscious or not) tend to think that those who also chose not to have formal training sound better - as to justify your own choice... the same way you are accusing those who have received training must be doing to justify their own choices.

How does that sit with you?

This is getting fucking stupid.

Learning music theory will make you a better composer. Period.

If it's making your music robotic you haven't learned it well enough.

this is boring me now

I think what the OP is trying to say is this:

"Is it important to know the correct terminology when producing", and the answer to this is "no". I remember watching an interview with Dot Rotten, an extremely talented producer, and he admitted he didn't know any of the technical jargon. I'm sure he's not alone. The point is; he knew exactly what he was doing, without labelling it.

I haven't read the thread but my opinion of 'this' is that it's a fairly versatile word which, according to Susan, goes with 'that'.

Ghost of Muttley wrote:I haven't read the thread but my opinion of 'this' is that it's a fairly versatile word which, according to Susan, goes with 'that'.

well, you can get with this. Or, you can get with that. But this is where it's at.

Mad EP wrote:

kidkunjer wrote:i don't think that asking people if they are happy with the investment they made is psychologically impirically sound. not many will say the thing i spent ten years working on and possibly thousands of pounds on was in fact a total waste of time even if it was. that doesn't add weight to the other side of course, i just wouldn't trust any of the answers.

I think that is a pretty reaching comment to make. To show you how silly, look what happens if I flip it to address your biases:

Since you have chosen not have any serious formal training, psychologically you (conscious or not) tend to think that those who also chose not to have formal training sound better - as to justify your own choice... the same way you are accusing those who have received training must be doing to justify their own choices.

How does that sit with you?

that sounds perfectly fine. it sits with me very well; i can see no problem with it flipped the other way.

although i should say i have had a fair amount of training in musical theory (if you read my earlier posts you'd know). I HAVE chosen serious formal training in a few (lets say 5) instruments, pure music theory and a weekend course (by which i mean it took place over the course of a year but was only on the weekends) specifically in computer music production.

and i personally wouldn't advise it.

Attila wrote:This is getting fucking stupid.

Learning music theory will make you a better composer. Period.

If it's making your music robotic you haven't learned it well enough.

no it wont, i simply don't agree.

it's not personally making my music sound robotic I don't feel, at best it doesn't effect it at all. perhaps there is some mysterious secret level of music theory i haven't learned that will take the place of inspiration, soul, and funkyness, but i really doubt it.

tim tebow is blessed with fantastic athletic ability, but he refuses to throw a football correctly

so he's a below average NFL quarterback

maybe if he worked on his mechanics (LEARNED & APPLIED PROVEN THEORY) he'd become a great player