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nowaysj wrote:Yo, lets get some ninjas together and FUCK HIM UP!

dsf wide troll on biab forum

That site wasnt very informative

He made some good points here about music though:

nowaysj wrote:Yo, lets get some ninjas together and FUCK HIM UP!

who? God?

ketamine wrote:He made some good points here about music though:

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god (a creator) may very well exist, i just doubt it's the christian one.. or any other god humanity's managed to come up with. i don't know once you start putting everything into perspective,thinking about what's beyond the universe, what was before the big bang the idea of god is just incomprehensible. i suppose it should be since the notion is so much bigger then ourselves.

Completely agree. So many people, religious or not, take this for granted. I've always personally believed a God exists, but something like him would be beyond anything we could ever conceive of.

Could God create a four-sided triangle? A circle on an Euclidean surface? It's just so... illogical and bizarre and it freaks me out, the idea of an incomprehensible being that's not bound by logic or the laws of our universe.

This thinking reminds me of an issue of Batman called "Emperor Joker" where Joker gained the powers of, well, god. He changed the laws of logic so that it was perfectly logic for 2+2 to equal... fish.

But theres no reason at all to believe that.

What if we have a god, but it is not like THE god, the creator of multiverses and all things, but like some podunk god that did create us, and life on this planet, but just tends a few out of the way garden planets here and there? Would suck really?

gnome wrote:Right here
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scientific ... _existence

Wow. Do you believe that?

haha I was in Norn Iron recently and your views wouldn't have been appreciated by the local community (I was in Ballymena)

I personally don't care what people believe myself

Jesus Christ was a gangsta rapper. They killed him then he came back and made a platinum album.

Pistonsbeneath wrote:

gnome wrote:Right here
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scientific ... _existence

Wow. Do you believe that?

haha I was in Norn Iron recently and your views wouldn't have been appreciated by the local community (I was in Ballymena)

I personally don't care what people believe myself

But them Ballymena ones can be a bit odd anyway.

zeta wrote:Completely agree. So many people, religious or not, take this for granted. I've always personally believed a God exists, but something like him would be beyond anything we could ever conceive of.

Could God create a four-sided triangle? A circle on an Euclidean surface? It's just so... illogical and bizarre and it freaks me out, the idea of an incomprehensible being that's not bound by logic or the laws of our universe.

This thinking reminds me of an issue of Batman called "Emperor Joker" where Joker gained the powers of, well, god. He changed the laws of logic so that it was perfectly logic for 2+2 to equal... fish.

haha brilliant.

ya bizarre like imagining life in a fourth spatial dimension, and what that'd look like..

nowaysj wrote:What if we have a god, but it is not like THE god, the creator of multiverses and all things, but like some podunk god that did create us, and life on this planet, but just tends a few out of the way garden planets here and there? Would suck really?

that's plausible, i mean look at the state of this place.

Russel's teapot yo

some serious shit bein chatted about my man the lord up in here.

Terpit wrote:But theres no reason at all to believe that.

You might think I'm some crazy religious nut... but I believe in a deity, regardless of whether or not it seems reasonable.

There is simply so much we don't know about this universe let alone beyond its borders, and I think we limit ourselves to ego-centrism when we believe our logic is the ultimate notion of 'logic', even though for humanity's purposes, it is. You might call this the argument from ignorance, but to think that humanity is the only sentient thing that exists in this massive, entropic sea is to me as silly as any other medieval ideas.

That something might exist outside our laws of logic is completely inconceivable and seems as outlandish as having 'faith', but I'm fearful that it's true. I can't base this on any rational thought, logical certainty or anything, of course, other than a deep-seated cynicism in our petty pride of our accomplishments on this little, insignificant planet, and my own irrational hunch, because ultimate it is irrational.

Basically, disregarding all fancy words: I believe things beyond our understanding of the universe and meta-universe do exist. I'm not saying it's the biblical god, or Allah, or fucking Buddha or even Cthulhu or Yog Sothoth, I'm simply saying that because there are things that are and might always be outside our realm of understanding there may always be a likelihood of a god - or at least something akin to it. Whether it comes from an alien race, or whether it 'has been, and always will be' (again, inconceivable to our laws of logic, as something 'has' to have been created), I have no clue.

This is in no way bashing science or anything... just me spouting off some cynical philosophy, I guess.

We could all be some alien kids science class assignment.

Yeah... or this might all be nothing more than just one massive computer simulation and we're all just illusions generated by algorithms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality

Is life just God playing the Sims?

The Matrix.

zeta wrote:

Terpit wrote:But theres no reason at all to believe that.

You might think I'm some crazy religious nut... but I believe in a deity, regardless of whether or not it seems reasonable.

There is simply so much we don't know about this universe let alone beyond its borders, and I think we limit ourselves to ego-centrism when we believe our logic is the ultimate notion of 'logic', even though for humanity's purposes, it is. You might call this the argument from ignorance, but to think that humanity is the only sentient thing that exists in this massive, entropic sea is to me as silly as any other medieval ideas.

That something might exist outside our laws of logic is completely inconceivable and seems as outlandish as having 'faith', but I'm fearful that it's true. I can't base this on any rational thought, logical certainty or anything, of course, other than a deep-seated cynicism in our petty pride of our accomplishments on this little, insignificant planet, and my own irrational hunch, because ultimate it is irrational.

Basically, disregarding all fancy words: I believe things beyond our understanding of the universe and meta-universe do exist. I'm not saying it's the biblical god, or Allah, or fucking Buddha or even Cthulhu or Yog Sothoth, I'm simply saying that because there are things that are and might always be outside our realm of understanding there may always be a likelihood of a god - or at least something akin to it. Whether it comes from an alien race, or whether it 'has been, and always will be' (again, inconceivable to our laws of logic, as something 'has' to have been created), I have no clue.

This is in no way bashing science or anything... just me spouting off some cynical philosophy, I guess.

Just because we don't understand something doesnt mean GOD AND JESUS DID IT.

And yeah, of course a god is possible. I 100% do not believe in the Christian god though, and wouldn't worship him even if he was real.