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unwind wrote:

favorite bad company tune is bullet time.

also, dillinja's remix of nitrous is fierce

fractal wrote:@ pete - it's funny how different we see things. In my mind, DnB peaked long before BC. By 99/00 it was so formulaic... Bad company was one of the crews I just couldn't get into. the bastardization of the sound imo

boom chick, boom chick, boom boom chick etc

to each their own tho

Yeah man, a lot of my mates who in the clubs same time as me could never stand Bad Company, they were similar to you in that once Techstep had started emerging it was the sound that really turned them off D&B. For me it's the sound that defined the differences between Jungle and D&B, the move away from being break dependant and shaking off the last remnants of the heritage of producers like Adam F, LTJ Bukem, Mask/Full Cycle. Personally I think few compilations really nailed like the Quantum Mechanics comp on Renegade Hardware. The ironic thing is modern producers who took this sound further like Noisia, Phace and the Neurofunk lot, I find stale and boring as piss, which I think is quite the minority view, especially from those that liked the original Techstep phase of D&B.

Has to be the nine or snow cat.

pete bubonic wrote:

fractal wrote:@ pete - it's funny how different we see things. In my mind, DnB peaked long before BC. By 99/00 it was so formulaic... Bad company was one of the crews I just couldn't get into. the bastardization of the sound imo

boom chick, boom chick, boom boom chick etc

to each their own tho

Yeah man, a lot of my mates who in the clubs same time as me could never stand Bad Company, they were similar to you in that once Techstep had started emerging it was the sound that really turned them off D&B. For me it's the sound that defined the differences between Jungle and D&B, the move away from being break dependant and shaking off the last remnants of the heritage of producers like Adam F, LTJ Bukem, Mask/Full Cycle. Personally I think few compilations really nailed like the Quantum Mechanics comp on Renegade Hardware. The ironic thing is modern producers who took this sound further like Noisia, Phace and the Neurofunk lot, I find stale and boring as piss, which I think is quite the minority view, especially from those that liked the original Techstep phase of D&B.

yep, you hit the nail on the head. i guess what had always interested me in jungle, besides the bass of course, was the wide range of beat patterns and tempos so I saw techstep as a deliberate move away from that. interesting that you didn't get into neuro, as it seems like a logical conclusion to the cold, techy sound

fractal wrote:

pete bubonic wrote:

fractal wrote:@ pete - it's funny how different we see things. In my mind, DnB peaked long before BC. By 99/00 it was so formulaic... Bad company was one of the crews I just couldn't get into. the bastardization of the sound imo

boom chick, boom chick, boom boom chick etc

to each their own tho

Yeah man, a lot of my mates who in the clubs same time as me could never stand Bad Company, they were similar to you in that once Techstep had started emerging it was the sound that really turned them off D&B. For me it's the sound that defined the differences between Jungle and D&B, the move away from being break dependant and shaking off the last remnants of the heritage of producers like Adam F, LTJ Bukem, Mask/Full Cycle. Personally I think few compilations really nailed like the Quantum Mechanics comp on Renegade Hardware. The ironic thing is modern producers who took this sound further like Noisia, Phace and the Neurofunk lot, I find stale and boring as piss, which I think is quite the minority view, especially from those that liked the original Techstep phase of D&B.

yep, you hit the nail on the head. i guess what had always interested me in jungle, besides the bass of course, was the wide range of beat patterns and tempos so I saw techstep as a deliberate move away from that. interesting that you didn't get into neuro, as it seems like a logical conclusion to the cold, techy sound

I can understand it - I loved (and love) the early techstep sound, and although I don't mind the neurofunk thing, I don't really put it on the same level. I guess because the early techstep still has some of that glinting-eyed rave madness I've always loved, whereas neurofunk has always sounded kinda flat in comparison

pearsall wrote:

fractal wrote:

pete bubonic wrote:

fractal wrote:@ pete - it's funny how different we see things. In my mind, DnB peaked long before BC. By 99/00 it was so formulaic... Bad company was one of the crews I just couldn't get into. the bastardization of the sound imo

boom chick, boom chick, boom boom chick etc

to each their own tho

Yeah man, a lot of my mates who in the clubs same time as me could never stand Bad Company, they were similar to you in that once Techstep had started emerging it was the sound that really turned them off D&B. For me it's the sound that defined the differences between Jungle and D&B, the move away from being break dependant and shaking off the last remnants of the heritage of producers like Adam F, LTJ Bukem, Mask/Full Cycle. Personally I think few compilations really nailed like the Quantum Mechanics comp on Renegade Hardware. The ironic thing is modern producers who took this sound further like Noisia, Phace and the Neurofunk lot, I find stale and boring as piss, which I think is quite the minority view, especially from those that liked the original Techstep phase of D&B.

yep, you hit the nail on the head. i guess what had always interested me in jungle, besides the bass of course, was the wide range of beat patterns and tempos so I saw techstep as a deliberate move away from that. interesting that you didn't get into neuro, as it seems like a logical conclusion to the cold, techy sound

I can understand it - I loved (and love) the early techstep sound, and although I don't mind the neurofunk thing, I don't really put it on the same level. I guess because the early techstep still some of that glinting-eyed rave madness I've always loved, whereas neurofunk has always sounded kinda flat in comparison

To me, Neurofunk was the cross over from having the music being more imaginative to being more production values based, if you could make some twisted resampled staggered reese noises, you had a tune, rather than focusing on the vibe, the mood, or the story. I dunno that's a really close minded way of viewing a genre, but like Pearsall above it always left me cold or flat.

Just for the record I absolutely love Jungle and the more rhythm experimental early D&B as well! Chopping up old funk breaks is the very first thing I did in production and probably still my fave part to date!