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wow, hows doom not even the 50th best...

no lil b either?

loooool list is jokes.

people getting twisted is jokes.

KGR should be a lot higher.

excluding aesop rock and putting L so low on the list.... criminal.

They didn't even write Ms. Lauryn Hill correctly.

Fucking Source. I didn't even realise they were still going tbh.

mo respect wrote:Nas wrote The Watcher too

*corrected*

i'm not gonna delve too deep into how wrong this list is...but a couple things that irked me immensely (tha others havent mentioned - i dont think).

Kanye West being in there at all.
LL Cool J being at #11 - down. way down. if at all in.
Andre 3000 being at #13 - up
Fabolous being in there
Rae & Ghostface not.


Seriously though, noone has paid attention to The Source for a decade.

wolf89 wrote:50 cent and T.I

no Vast Aire or Kool Keith... hmmm....

Kool Keith is there at #18 under Kool G Rap.

southstar wrote:

Laszlo wrote:@Southstar - You sayin Nas and Redman aren't good??

Not a fan of Nas. Redman is quality in the same way as DMX and Ice cube are quality but top lyricists?

Redman is one of the GOAT, he's got bars for days, sure he may not be the deepest but he can rock the mic for sure.

Rick Ross and 50? But no Sean Price? No Ghostface? Hmmm.

rayman612 wrote:

Laszlo wrote: Licensed to Ill by Beastie Boys*
Straight Outta The Jungle by The Jungle Brothers*
Strictly Business by EPMD*
Infamous by Mobb Deep*
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx by Raekwon*
One for All by Brand Nubian
De La Soul Is Dead by De La Soul*
Breaking Atoms by Main Source*
Critical Beatdown by Ultramagnetic MCs

none of them are on the top 50 "lyrical" rappers list?

ALSO WHERE THE FUCK ARE DOOM & JERU

Prodigy from mobb made the list. Don't know why hav isn't on there though.

I love doom and all, but I don't think he belongs anywhere near a 50 best lyricist list. Albeit he belongs on there more than half the people they put, but still.

And where the fuck is lord finesse!?! He should easily be in the top 5.

So we all agree the list is a travesty. Does anyone want to have a crack at explaining The Source's motive behind it?

Are they just that out of touch or are they too embroiled in the hip hop world to be objective?

Also, was Eminem right in thinking he deserved 5 mics?

None of his Albums have been perfect imo

JizzMan wrote:...
no lil b either?

pretty sure he's on the 50 worst list, in the section titled "doesn't remember any of his lyrics (not that it matters)"

herbs wrote:None of his [Eminem's] Albums have been perfect imo

Not a lot of hip hop albums are, imho.

Most in that '5 mic' list (that I know) have some bullshit tunes on.

they just misnamed the list. this should be the 50 most influential rappers

If it was that ^^ Tupac would be a the top, unquestionably.

Discuss

Laszlo wrote:

herbs wrote:None of his [Eminem's] Albums have been perfect imo

Not a lot of hip hop albums are, imho.

Most in that '5 mic' list (that I know) have some bullshit tunes on.

other than Lil Kim - The Naked Truth (LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL) and maybe Bun B's LP (tbh I've only listened to it once), I'd say all the 5 mic albums are perfect albums without a song you would skip. None of Eminems LP's are unskippable (IMO).

nah rakim or melle mel have to be number 1. no one on that list had more influence than them.

plus you know, the source always has an east coast bias

Laszlo wrote:If it was that ^^ Tupac would be a the top, unquestionably.

Discuss

r u serious?

herbs wrote:

Laszlo wrote:

herbs wrote:None of his [Eminem's] Albums have been perfect imo

Not a lot of hip hop albums are, imho.

Most in that '5 mic' list (that I know) have some bullshit tunes on.

other than Lil Kim - The Naked Truth (LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL) and maybe Bun B's LP (tbh I've only listened to it once), I'd say all the 5 mic albums are perfect albums without a song you would skip. None of Eminems LP's are unskippable (IMO).

I think i'll have to bow to your superior knowledge/opinion. As I say, I don't know all the albums on there and the one's I do, although amazing, certainly have tracks I have to skip (barring 7 or 8ish).

i missed prodigy & kool keith on there

i still think DOOM although his flow is staggered has very impressive lyrics

& most influential would probably be guys from like the Fat Boys or LL Cool J in that vein of golden age stuff

laszlo, i don't think i'll ever understand your unwavering allegiance with ol' pac. i do applaud your commitment to singing his praises, though.
dude did what he did well, for sure, but.... doesn't even come close to biggie or L, in fact i'd say i rate a good 5 or 10 rappers miles ahead of him. in terms of influence, surely would be someone before his time too...