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The unplugged show is evidence that they kind of where a big deal prior to blondie offing himself.

I agree about soundgarden being the really good ones though. Pumpkins where more for the artcrowd in my oppinion, not really the disenfranchised youths YOUTHS lol. ...

ch3 wrote:
Anyone likes Nomeansno? 'Mama' was one of the tapes I could listen to on repeat. Next to Ministry, haha.

Yes!! They are only one of my most favourite bands of all time! Last time I saw them was a couple of years ago. They are still rockin' hard.

pkay wrote: my list of awesome shows I am very fortunate to have seen:

Tricky on the Maxinquaye tour

Fuck offff

mks wrote:

ch3 wrote:
Anyone likes Nomeansno? 'Mama' was one of the tapes I could listen to on repeat. Next to Ministry, haha.

Yes!! They are only one of my most favourite bands of all time! Last time I saw them was a couple of years ago. They are still rockin' hard.

Aha! I saw them in Poland, Finland and then a couple of years ago in London, too.

This is my favourite tote, it's been used so much that it's totally torn but I still carry it with me pretty much every day

hubb wrote:The unplugged show is evidence that they kind of where a big deal prior to blondie offing himself.

I agree about soundgarden being the really good ones though. Pumpkins where more for the artcrowd in my oppinion, not really the disenfranchised youths YOUTHS lol. ...

I disagree..... Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, REM, Lenny Kravitz, and 10,000 Maniacs all were asked to perform before Nirvana.

Also asked to perform before, Soul Asylum, Arrested Development, Winger, and Queensryche

Nirvana were the Skrillex of their generation. Not the first, not the best.. but the name that will stand out in history.

Burgeamon wrote:Nirvana were the Skrillex of their generation. Not the first, not the best.. but the name that will stand out in history.

Hopefully Skrillex follows Cobain's example

I'm so glad that southstar is inbetween me and you, otherwise I'd teach you a thing or two about music history, punk.

Winger

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Burgeamon wrote:Nirvana were the Skrillex of their generation. Not the first, not the best.. but the name that will stand out in history.

problem with that comparison is that I like all the nirvana albums where as skrillex hasn't even made one good track. his music is infact all terrible

'Siamese Dream' is 'Loveless' for people who hate good music.

that's a dumb thing to say. they are nothing alike

and why can't you like both?

You cannn and Billy admitted that that's the vibes he was going for with 'Siamese Dream'. Billy even specifically wanted the dude who mixed down 'Loveless' to mix 'Siamese Dream'.

If you like both fine, but to me it sounds like a poorer attempt at that vibe.

hmm I really don't hear it that much

pkay, i don't know about you, but were i grew up, everyone was talking about nirvana in 92. sure, their ideas weren't original, but they did it in a way that everyone could enjoy. pixies are great, but not everyone can get into them. smashing pumpkins are shit after siamese dream imho, no one i knew gave a fuck about them. i guess what this tells me is that just because me and my small group of friends decided on something, it doesn't make it true for the rest of the world. interesting....

Yeah, no it does. Pkay is just chatting shit. Was just a little kid at the time, no idea really.

SCope13 wrote: and every RHCP album over it .

I love RHCP, but literally half their albums are trash. You would honestly rather listen to I'm With You or One Hot Minute over Nevermind?

Fuck what people used to listen to and fuck what charted by the way. Yeah, the Smashing Pumpkins may have sold out the ass, but how many bands out of the whole post- hardcore punk sphere of indie/rock music (or modern "alt. rock") go back to the Smashing Pumpkins as the band that 'changed everything'?

Yeah, there was Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, the Smashing Pumpkins. But the bands that are really being quoted as influential these days, that people talk about as having shaped their music are Dinosaur Jr, Pavement, Guided By Voices, Sonic Youth and fucking Nirvana. (And out of those I personally only give a fuck about Dino Jr and ESPECIALLY GBV). There was Jane's Addiction and Faith No More in the late '90s and Sonic Youth got signed to a major label in the early '90s and the Pumpkins sold stuff. But Nirvana, while only being a moderate commercial success the first month after Nevermind was released (seriously who gives a fuck?) actually inspired people to pick up an instrument and start bands.

And you know why people are so gay for the Pixies/Breeders these days? It's because of Kurt Cobain. Same with the Raincoats, Meat Puppets, the Melvins, Flipper, Daniel Johnston and all these other '80s bands that he was into and people jizz over all the time. How many bands were people turned onto because Billy Corgan was all over their dick? Hell, he may been publically a lot more hot for My Bloody Valentine than Cobain was, but I bet Cobain got a lot more people into them through a passing mention than Corgan could if he'd plastered every American highway with a billboards professing his love for 'Loveless'.

You know, I posted this vid in another thread here recently but it seems relevant here. I was at this show in Seattle in September 1990. It was the Melvins and Nirvana. The show was intense! This was a full year and four months before they blew up globally. I remember Nevermind came out in September of 1991 but it didn't hit big until January or February of 1992.

I know from experience that Nirvana were the real deal. They were huge in Seattle and the Pacific Northwest and it really wasn't any surprise when they got globally popular because they were a great band.

Then things got weird when the media started projecting all of these things about "grunge music". I actually don't think anyone ever even called it grunge before the media hype. It was just a continuation of all of the hardcore/punk shows and scene in our region. What really happened was that punk and metal were converging in the late '80's, and flannels..., well we wore those because it is cold and wet during the winter in the Pacific Northwest.

ch3 wrote:

mks wrote:

ch3 wrote:
Anyone likes Nomeansno? 'Mama' was one of the tapes I could listen to on repeat. Next to Ministry, haha.

Yes!! They are only one of my most favourite bands of all time! Last time I saw them was a couple of years ago. They are still rockin' hard.

Aha! I saw them in Poland, Finland and then a couple of years ago in London, too.

This is my favourite tote, it's been used so much that it's totally torn but I still carry it with me pretty much every day

Nice one!! Nomeansno were from the Pacific Northwest as well so they were around a lot. They are from Victoria/Vancouver, British Colombia.

Ministry was another one of our favs. We used to blast "The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste" on our way up the mountain to go snowboarding.

Did you ever check out Pailhead or Lard by any chance? Those were both side projects of Alaine Jourgenson from Ministry with Ian McKaye from Minor Threat/Fugazi (Pailhead) and Jello Biafra from Dead Kennedys (Lard).