^ Exactly. This is why I'm highly skeptical - which is more likely: that, say, a CIA operative drugged someone and dressed up in an alien suit and rectally probed them, OR - that aliens somehow managed to evolve to overwhelmingly share our morphology, and then managed to come here and find us (who also look like they do.)
@nowaysj - Yeah, the Aurora project tie-ins to the black triangles have been asserted before. There are flight characteristics that don't seem consistent with the known facts about Aurora though, from what I've read. High speed angular 90* turns and stuff.
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:53 pm
by lloydnoise
I've always been as rational as possible on this subject (erring on skepticism) and while there are too many wild and ridiculous theories that muddy the waters, there is a genuinely interesting discussion to be had regarding some of this stuff. Shame it all seems to have died down as around 2010/11 there were a lot of exciting things popping up -
Paul Hellyer's speech -
USAF 2010 Press Conference -
Full Conference here -
These guys had no reasons to disclose this stuff, they don't have books out or seminar tickets to sell, why would they risk losing all personal and professional credibility?
But if it's true, and they exist, how is there so little solid, empirical evidence?
BLARGH
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:07 pm
by nowaysj
imami wrote:
nowaysj wrote:There is a reason Boston dynamics designs their bots like pack animals, and it is not aesthetics.
could you possibly elaborate on this nowaysj?
BD didn't say, hey lets build a quadraped robot that looks like a mule, their designers said what is the most efficient way to move a mass across varied terrain, and this is what they came up with. It is little surprise that the evolutionary process on this planet has produced similar results.
Other planets with similar conditions to ours would just as likely produce the same results to the challenges of moving a mass across varied terrain (as efficiently as possible). So it is not unlikely that apex beings from other similar planets would have evolved from quadraped lifeforms, and would in some way resemble us, or us, them.
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:18 pm
by alphacat
lloydnoise wrote:I've always been as rational as possible on this subject (erring on skepticism) and while there are too many wild and ridiculous theories that muddy the waters, there is a genuinely interesting discussion to be had regarding some of this stuff. Shame it all seems to have died down as around 2010/11 there were a lot of exciting things popping up -
Paul Hellyer's speech -
USAF 2010 Press Conference -
Full Conference here -
These guys had no reasons to disclose this stuff, they don't have books out or seminar tickets to sell, why would they risk losing all personal and professional credibility?
But if it's true, and they exist, how is there so little solid, empirical evidence?
BLARGH
Let's not forget Buzz Aldrin too:
"We should visit the moon of Mars. There is a monolith there, a very unusual structure on this little potatoes-shaped object that goes around Mars," said former astronaut Buzz Aldrin in an interview with C-Span some years ago.
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:35 am
by nowaysj
That is just building 7, Solomon's Temple, nothing of interest there.
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:58 am
by skell1ngton777
the people from sirius look like a cross between a dog and a rabbit
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:13 pm
by nowaysj
Are you serious?
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:20 pm
by skell1ngton777
one time i stayed awake for 5 days and was 'visited' by a person from sirius who appeared to looked like that, so yes.
was like a large bipedal dog, taller than an average human, with long rabbit ears that stick up in the air.
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:41 pm
by nowaysj
Are you serious?
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:55 pm
by skell1ngton777
i don't know
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:58 pm
by hasezwei
i remember when i stayed up for 3 days with a buddy just to see if we could (oh to be 15 again...), we played magic cards to stay awake and after the 50 hour mark or so the pictures on the cards started moving.
you probably just hallucinated.
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:52 pm
by kingGhost
imami wrote:one time i stayed awake for 5 days and was 'visited' by a person from sirius who appeared to looked like that, so yes.
was like a large bipedal dog, taller than an average human, with long rabbit ears that stick up in the air.
imami...
looooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
whofortedblog wrote:
The Black Knight Returns: Space Junk or Alien Eavesdropper?
Astronomers across the world make a game of spotting secret government spy satellites, tracking them, and sometimes sharing the information with plausible deniability. Not everything in Earth orbit has a prosaic explanation like this object.
First publicized in Disneyland Of The Gods, John Keel wrote of an object observed in polar orbit. Its size was beyond the known means of any terrestrial space program and once in the public consciousness more observations were recorded. Some ham radio operators, precursors to today’s basement-dwelling neckbeards, claimed eavesdropping on strange signals from the satellite dubbed “The Black Knight”. From the ground it was a glowing, red object moving in an east-to-west orbit contrary to contemporary satellites. Life gets more interesting as humans take their first steps into space.
First known observation of TBK from orbit was by Gordon Cooper bringing forth explanations that Gordo was tripping balls from a build-up of carbon dioxide, but the sightings didn’t stop there. One of the more famous photos floating around the internet is from STS-088, spied from Endeavor back in 1987 long before Photoshop was a twinkle in a pervert’s eye.
One of the hottest videos to hit the internet from the International Space Station isn’t Chris Hadfield’s cover of “Space Oddity” but a sighting of The Black Knight. It bears a striking similarity to the STS-088 images (123456).
Many questions remain on the anomaly. Why would it be seen going in an east-to-west, or vice versa, if The Black Knight is in a polar orbit? I might have more to say after acquiring my celestial dynamics degree. What says the video isn’t just capturing the reflection of a light source within the ISS? One thing stands to reason, when confronted with the evidence from observing TBK the skeptics can only cry “woo” with ad hominem attacks against fortean websites instead of calling it an astronaut’s wayward toolbag, a satellite viewed from a non-traditional angle, or at least claim the tried-and-true fallbacks of mass hysteria or hallucinations. Even the ones who say it is space junk claim to be “comfortable” with the explanation without further inquiry.
Me? I have no idea, and I look forward to following this story until there’s something more substantial than speculation from either side.
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 5:54 pm
by Genevieve
So the 'black knight' is it really the same thing or does it just look similar on blurry pictures?
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 6:35 pm
by alphacat
Genevieve wrote:So the 'black knight' is it really the same thing or does it just look similar on blurry pictures?
It's been speculated that it changes shape... but many of the pics are very constent.
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 6:38 pm
by Genevieve
Think it could depend on the angle cuz it's a weird shaped thang. And the last picture is just the same image flipped horizontally :p
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:30 pm
by Mason
if that was an alien craft do you not think they would have at least a basic understanding of aerodynamics? why would they make it look so retarded? space junk imo
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:31 pm
by alphacat
Mason wrote:if that was an alien craft do you not think they would have at least a basic understanding of aerodynamics? why would they make it look so retarded? space junk imo
Um, there's no air in space dude.
Re: Russia Orders Obama: Tell World About Aliens, Or We Will
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:32 pm
by Mason
how would it get into space? also surely from an engineering point of view a symmetrical ship would be easier to construct?
