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Let's not go into extremes lol. Wait 4 years? That's kind of dumb i'd say.
If you got the confidence that your tunes are banging, than just send them out to labels. On another note like NAKEDLUNCH said, don't stop sending them. Eventually someone will pick it up. Also someone might just give you some constructive feedback tricks n shit. If the label just doesn't open your e-mail cuz u been spamming, then it's their loss, maybe they'll miss out on your new banger and then be all jelly about it (that has happened to me too lol).

The most important thing is that you stay true to your label and not be a labelwhore or play "live" without the cdjs being connected to cables or electricity (DISCLOSURE).

the double m wrote:i read somewhere that wut was the first tune girl unit ever wrote is that tru

not exactly, it was originally made years before release but that the original version sounded pretty different

there are so many examples of people on this forum even that have just come up doing their own thing and have just kept on doing it.

i see the allure of a release for sure but for the most interesting producers its something they are doing anyway and that release is just a reward, not like dudes are making loads of coin out of it - so why pretend thats whats up...

so many people freaking out about it. doing things like starting their own 'labels' (that are just beatport *arpeggioator deals) making deals of having top 100 beatp0rt
i actively hate this attitude towards making music, art, watever it undermines anything there was interesting about it and changes the conversation away from what is it to how 'popular' it is.

edit:

not a slur on anyone tbh, just thinking do your own thing and do it properly and not for reasons of PLAYS and POPULARITY

i started my own label (or 'label' if u will) but it doesnt have anything 2 do w/ djs not pickin up on my tunez/beatport. (whats a beatport? whats a arpeggioator??)

arpeggiator is when u play a chord and the computers play it back to u note by note...not sure if thats right tho

i think what you are on about is an *aggregator* ?

kuklee wrote:The most important thing is that you stay true to your label and not be a labelwhore

What's wrong with releasing on different labels?

kuklee wrote:Let's not go into extremes lol. Wait 4 years? That's kind of dumb i'd say.

gotta set a goal dont u? n everyone works/learns/progresses at a different pace dont they? im an extremely busy fella and i barely ever find spare time to sit down and properly write tunes, ive not been doing it for a very long time but i havent even made something id show my mum yet.

but on a mrore on topic note:
everyone under 25 is from a generation of lazy gimps who;ve had absolutely everything handed to them on a plate (sweepoing generalisation). ppl just expect to get everything intsantly and painlessly without having to put any effort in whatsoever, or the bare minimum. if people want to pussy out after they fall at the first hurdle who cares. natural selection. mebs theyll learn to try harder in future or assume their rightful place at the bottom of the pile

skimpi wrote: All im saying is that you are moaning/complaining about people sending you tunes once, and never again, maybe its just because they dont think you will like the kind of shit they are doing based on you not feeling the first lot.

All you're saying? But thats what I have been saying since the start of the thread lol

OK - sod it
i wasnt gonna say shit
but..

when i started making music in the early 90s
i had to find addresses / names with NO internet
sidenote: it helped that we were actually BUYING records in the first place often - as the address might be on the label or sleeve

then we had to buy and dub off tapes
buy jiffy bags
stamps etc
write letters
and send em out blind

MOST of the time we got NO response
NADA

did that stop us?

NO

eventually we heard from labels that were bothered to listen and liked us
and in our 'career' did 4 double vinyl albums across 3 different labels
plus loads of vinyl eps and singles across labels all over the world
ALL initiated by us

another example
we developed a relationship with John Peel
because we physically sent him every release we made
in the HOPE he might listen and enjoy
which lead to 2 Peel sessions and much support

when people didnt respond we had no idea of the reasons
we just had to look around for other labels
or keep sending to our favourites in the hope of a POSSIBLE EVENTUAL response

and i'm not grandstanding about the above achievements
just giving examples

can we just say this is a MAN UP or GET OUT scenario

how come this shit aint obvious?
bloody hell

Agreed it's alot easier to send your shit out nowadays. Too easy. Which means labels no doubt get sent mountains of shite. Which means normally when you hear labels talking about demos they are moaning about how many they get that don't fit the label. Which makes this thread surprising. But encouraging. Props for actually encouraging producers to keep at it.

Personally I have been making tunes for about 5 years but never sent anyone anything, when I 100% back it against stuff I would buy I will send it out...

dj donga wrote:OK - sod it
i wasnt gonna say shit
but..

when i started making music in the early 90s
i had to find addresses / names with NO internet
sidenote: it helped that we were actually BUYING records in the first place often - as the address might be on the label or sleeve

then we had to buy and dub off tapes
buy jiffy bags
stamps etc
write letters
and send em out blind

MOST of the time we got NO response
NADA

did that stop us?

NO

eventually we heard from labels that were bothered to listen and liked us
and in our 'career' did 4 double vinyl albums across 3 different labels
plus loads of vinyl eps and singles across labels all over the world
ALL initiated by us

another example
we developed a relationship with John Peel
because we physically sent him every release we made
in the HOPE he might listen and enjoy
which lead to 2 Peel sessions and much support

when people didnt respond we had no idea of the reasons
we just had to look around for other labels
or keep sending to our favourites in the hope of a POSSIBLE EVENTUAL response

and i'm not grandstanding about the above achievements
just giving examples

can we just say this is a MAN UP or GET OUT scenario

how come this shit aint obvious?
bloody hell

great post donga

thats it im starting a brostep label

aye, people should just stop being such absolute nancys about it tbh. like whe n loe started swmap, even zed bias himself had to send loefah tons of different tunes before loe thought 'yeah man, thats the sound i wanna put out there'

dj donga wrote: how come this shit aint obvious?
bloody hell

truth

kuklee wrote:The most important thing is that you stay true to your label and not be a labelwhore or play "live" without the cdjs being connected to cables or electricity (DISCLOSURE).

are you just posting the first nonsense that comes into your head?

the double m wrote:i started my own label

whats a arpeggioator??

was taking the piss man

the post above me had the word 'arpeggioator' in it

nakedlunch wrote:

skimpi wrote: All im saying is that you are moaning/complaining about people sending you tunes once, and never again, maybe its just because they dont think you will like the kind of shit they are doing based on you not feeling the first lot.

All you're saying? But thats what I have been saying since the start of the thread lol

Yeah but you are saying it as if they are butthurt, like they sent you and only you some tunes, and you didnt reply so they cried for a bit and stopped making music forever. Where I am saying, maybe they just dont send you shit again because you probably wont like it, and they put all their effort into sending their shit to the right people who actually like it. Just cos they dont send you tunes again don't mean they are giving up lol

This is so nonsense. Everybody is just complaining...if a certain producer doesn't wanna send you his/her demos anymore, who cares? There are plenty of other producers. From my experience if a label / dj likes your tunes, sound, direction your heading then they will reply saying something like "please keep us posted..." blablabla.

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skimpi wrote:

nakedlunch wrote:

skimpi wrote: All im saying is that you are moaning/complaining about people sending you tunes once, and never again, maybe its just because they dont think you will like the kind of shit they are doing based on you not feeling the first lot.

All you're saying? But thats what I have been saying since the start of the thread lol

Yeah but you are saying it as if they are butthurt, like they sent you and only you some tunes, and you didnt reply so they cried for a bit and stopped making music forever. Where I am saying, maybe they just dont send you shit again because you probably wont like it, and they put all their effort into sending their shit to the right people who actually like it. Just cos they dont send you tunes again don't mean they are giving up lol

skimpi i think all hes saying is persistence is key, youve gotta pester people to get your name out there. dont think hes saying he thinks that people get rejected and then isntantly quit making music all togheter. at least thats not how i read it.

but technically if people stop sending music to labvels they like just cos they dont get a reply the first time, and assume that its because the label doesnt like that sound, then they are giving up??

and ur making out as if sending a quick email takes loadssss of effort, and not just ten minutes of your time