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I mix these together for shits and giggles because they both have that sample from "jet airliner"

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would be pretty dope to make a set where every track samples the jet airliner intro

Gryphonyx wrote:Am gonna get cornlol'd for this but to my musically untuned ear these sound similar

Beware, the second one is kind of brostep/drumstep.

Not similar at all, are you trying to promote a rubbish "drumstepper"?

wasteman

Hot Pan by Cyrus and Sun Beam by Goth Trad. Similar bassline.

may not seem like it at first but when the basslines kick in...

loefah - root vs distance - ill kontent
mala - level nine vs walton - frisbee

you know that consequence tune that sounds like mud does sound like shit on second listen

went through his discog a bit, rest of his tracks don't seem to be much better

Jurkhands wrote:most of the dungeon-y stuff is in the key of G, F or D minor.
and I can't remember having heard a change in keys since Midnight Request Line.

makes me think.

I know from reliable sources that a lot of the earlier tempa boys, whenever they used to send tunes to Youngsta, he would send them back and say make it in the key of f / f minor. Basically so a lot of the Tempa catalogue, the dungeon sound and bare sets by Youngsta, sound a bit similar and are all key matched.

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Direflow wrote:you know that consequence tune that sounds like mud does sound like shit on second listen

went through his discog a bit, rest of his tracks don't seem to be much better

his live for never album on exit is pretty good

yeah i saw that on discogs but i didn't give a listen yet

said it was DnB/dubstep so its kind of like Icicle's '11 album?

Direflow wrote:yeah i saw that on discogs but i didn't give a listen yet

said it was DnB/dubstep so its kind of like Icicle's '11 album?

it's in the autonomic vein dbridge was pushing at the time

oh that actually sounds pretty cool, might give it a listen

pete bubonic wrote: I know from reliable sources that a lot of the earlier tempa boys, whenever they used to send tunes to Youngsta, he would send them back and say make it in the key of f / f minor. Basically so a lot of the Tempa catalogue, the dungeon sound and bare sets by Youngsta, sound a bit similar and are all key matched.

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not that key would matter that much in dubstep anyways.


also, Exit and Dispatch are the most badass dnb labels out there.

Jurkhands wrote: not that key would matter that much in dubstep anyways.
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hmm, i get the sentiment (i think) but I disagree wholly.

i actually see what he's getting at here. for more melodic stuff like Silkie, Phaeleh, Mala, and even a good amount of tunes from Ditance i think it would matter. but when it comes to the dungeon stuff, a lot of the artists seem to have barely a key at all. off the top of my head, i can't really think of a Yunx, LX One, SP:MC, or Benton tune that really has an apparent key. Even when these artists do usually have a clear key, like Kenzo, Proxima, Biome, or Kryptic Minds, it usually doesn't matter very much and i often change it to fit my needs when doing DJ sets. Only artists i can think of in the scene that makes the key relevant at all is Kahn and maybe a few tunes from Commodo. even guys who aren't necessarily in the "dungeon" scene like LAS or Gantz don't really make the key of their tunes all that relevant.

most of the Punch Drunk catalogue (including Pete's) is very focused on melody. all the purple stuff as well. same goes for most Mala, Goth-Trad and the antisocial guys, to name just a few. however, if I'm unsure on the melodics, I'll usually drop a deep roller afterwards - something like Vivek, Benga's "Roller", Commodo's "Saracen" or an Area Records plate. thus, key becomes completely irrelevant.

but again, I'm a shit dj, so what do I know.


edit: well, in Yunx's current selection key is negligible for about 1h45min of his standard techno set.

pete bubonic wrote:

Jurkhands wrote:most of the dungeon-y stuff is in the key of G, F or D minor.
and I can't remember having heard a change in keys since Midnight Request Line.

makes me think.

I know from reliable sources that a lot of the earlier tempa boys, whenever they used to send tunes to Youngsta, he would send them back and say make it in the key of f / f minor. Basically so a lot of the Tempa catalogue, the dungeon sound and bare sets by Youngsta, sound a bit similar and are all key matched.

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not trying to have a go at you mate but is that a bad thing? if thats what it takes to get their tunes played by him fair enough i reckon. the rest of the tune is written so its easy to mix so who cares if people are changing keys to suit a particular dj?

Well I'm on the fence to be honest, on one side, you wanna release on tempa or feature in Yunx's sets then you gotta tow the line and they know what they're doing and what makes a hit. But on the flip side, we ain't making pop music, this should be (pure emo) stuff from the heart, stuff that makes the producer want to move, let the do their thing was always my approach.

Is it the same as making a VIP for a dj, or is it changing something you were vibing on just so some guy will play it for a month or two... Hmmm, I know what I would say!

As for how much difference a key makes, it's personally not important, but I can imagine for a dj like Yunx who is renowned for his tight key matched mixing (and with everything at the same tempo, same key is more important) it's a big thing. Eve for some of the more seemingly atonal stuff. I GUESS...

pete bubonic wrote:Well I'm on the fence to be honest, on one side, you wanna release on tempa or feature in Yunx's sets then you gotta tow the line and they know what they're doing and what makes a hit. But on the flip side, we ain't making pop music, this should be (pure emo) stuff from the heart, stuff that makes the producer want to move, let the do their thing was always my approach.

Is it the same as making a VIP for a dj, or is it changing something you were vibing on just so some guy will play it for a month or two... Hmmm, I know what I would say!

As for how much difference a key makes, it's personally not important, but I can imagine for a dj like Yunx who is renowned for his tight key matched mixing (and with everything at the same tempo, same key is more important) it's a big thing. Eve for some of the more seemingly atonal stuff. I GUESS...

hmm i agree with you there actually. i dont know what i think about it now either.

im not very good at forums

lylo wrote:
hmm i agree with you there actually. i dont know what i think about it now either.

im not very good at forums

I believe the appropriate DSF response is 'shut it you fggt'

pete bubonic wrote:

lylo wrote:
hmm i agree with you there actually. i dont know what i think about it now either.

im not very good at forums

I believe the appropriate DSF response is 'shut it you fggt'

haha nah i think you're talking sense mate