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Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:06 pm
by bennyfroobs
2 muck tekno

it was always on the horizon though, u coulfd tell by the amount of techno infused dubstep coming out 2k9 and beyond

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:17 pm
by bennyfroobs
https://soundcloud.com/clearlightdub < innovation

liked this guys stuff for ages its nice seeing him get more recognition now

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:51 pm
by skimpi
I think the problem is, is that you want there to be inovation at 140bpm halfstep dubstep, well, thats just not going to happen is it. The inovators are off doing something else and being inovative, not making dubsstep lol

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:58 pm
by particle-jim
To all the folk saying there's no innovation left at 140, go and listen to vivek's most recent rinse show and then retract your statements

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:50 am
by Soulstep
Innovation comes from bottom.

look at the 130 thread people are posting tunes from artists that have barely any facebook/soundcloud followers, its just about the music

Epoch and Sepia are slept on in dubstep (imo)
but in 130 their names get mentioned everywhere as ones to watch ?

when its dubstep its :H: DJs are out of touch, they ain't looking for new artists.

There's a MssingNo thread but there ain't no Geode thread....

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:42 am
by MUT3
particle-jim wrote:To all the folk saying there's no innovation left at 140, go and listen to vivek's most recent rinse show and then retract your statements
alright ill give it a try. just for you.

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:08 am
by nousd
@MUTE: open minds are very attractive so I'm giving yu a bag ip

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:56 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
160

you know thats where its at

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:00 am
by sigbowls
136 > 130 160 > 170

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:23 am
by ehbes
Nevalo wrote:160

you know thats where its at
If this is a juke reference I'll fukin bash ya

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:33 am
by bennyfroobs
i find juke to be really formulaic

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:46 am
by particle-jim
Juke is great

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:54 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
nope the whole 160-170 scene is booming, not just the footwurk stuff either

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:27 pm
by Forum
Straight juke/footwork is utter shite, but a lot of the crossover stuff is excellent

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:32 pm
by Sexual_Chocolate
boo urns

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:36 pm
by m8son666
98.4% of juke is shit

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:40 pm
by Sexual_Chocolate
well youve listened to alot of juke to come to that percentage

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:34 pm
by cloaked_up
lots of dirge
i can normally tell if they r wack from their name tbh

innovations are everywhere, cunce just like retro fetishising the predominiant vintage dubsteop aesthrtic onto new stuff as a baaaasssssline reading of if its 4 the tru heads

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:45 pm
by jaydot
This is how I see it;

Dubstep as a genre is made up of parts, or niches for the producers to "exploit" via their own productions. There's x ammount of bedroom producers and y ammount of niches left, to put it quite simply we're running out of innovation potential. (and some people might disagree) so we should just relax and enjoy the good times and the here and now and fuck what happens in the future.

Re: What ever happened to the innovation?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:24 pm
by Func
I don't agree with that, you can look at House and Techno for examples both those genres have parts and niches that people have been continuously exploiting for almost 30 years. The most innovative material comes from those new to the scene or with their own distinctive taste in music, for Dubstep you could say Distance's interest in heavy metal meant he was going to approach the Dubstep template differently to someone like 2562 /AMUS who has more of an interest in Techno and House. Right now anyone making Dubstep probably has been listening to it for a few years which means most ideas will probably have been recycled to a certain degree.