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Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:37 am
by Riddles
mIrReN wrote:yeah but Paul Walker didn't save humanity
Paul Walker didn't arrange and organise killings of innocent people either.

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:37 am
by Genevieve
Riddles wrote:
mIrReN wrote:yeah but Paul Walker didn't save humanity
Paul Walker didn't arrange and organise killings of innocent people either.
As far was we know

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:38 am
by garethom
wub wrote:
mIrReN wrote:yeah but Paul Walker didn't save humanity
Did the Fast & Furious franchise touch more people than ending Apartheid? Only history will tell us.
Stop being such a boy Wub, be a man.

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:39 am
by wub
garethom wrote:
wub wrote:
mIrReN wrote:yeah but Paul Walker didn't save humanity
Did the Fast & Furious franchise touch more people than ending Apartheid? Only history will tell us.
Stop being such a boy Wub, be a man.
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Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:40 am
by nowaysj
Genevieve wrote:
Riddles wrote:
mIrReN wrote:yeah but Paul Walker didn't save humanity
Paul Walker didn't arrange and organise killings of innocent people either.
As far was we don't know
I think, given that we are in a negative sort of double entendre.

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:42 am
by mIrReN
tbf wub I think it did, quite sure!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fast_a ... 8series%29
so Paul Walker touched more hearts than Mandelo :o


btw Riddles, he did, did you even see the movies?

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:43 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
wub wrote:
mIrReN wrote:yeah but Paul Walker didn't save humanity
Did the Fast & Furious franchise touch more people than ending Apartheid? Only history will tell us.
little downs.

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:43 am
by Riddles
mIrReN wrote:tbf wub I think it did, quite sure!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fast_a ... 8series%29
so Paul Walker touched more hearts than Mandelo :o


btw Riddles, he did, did you even see the movies?
not the more recent ones, only up to tokyo drift. need to fix that tbh

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:44 am
by Genevieve
wub wrote:
garethom wrote:
wub wrote:
mIrReN wrote:yeah but Paul Walker didn't save humanity
Did the Fast & Furious franchise touch more people than ending Apartheid? Only history will tell us.
Stop being such a boy Wub, be a man.
Image
Did you guys know I originally posted the video of this guy here on DSF?

That's my legacy to DSF.

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:45 am
by nitz
southstar wrote:
nitz wrote:How can some of you be jokey in regards to his passing, it's highly disrespectful and shows even in serous matters some of you act like boys not men.


RIP to the great that has unprecedentedly given to the human race.
I didn't see this comment in the Paul Walker thread...

Death will always be a subject for comedy, doesn't mean you don't respect them or what they did
I wrote RIP in his thread and i don't think i've been back their since. Even so, you can't compare Mandela to Paul Walker, they are entirely from two different walks of life who has contributed differently . Death is death unfortunately, but some will be far more mourned for than others.

Death should never be a matter of comedy, unless the person in question did crazy stuff, i.e crimes against humanity. Hitler or someone alike.

I disagree with 90% of what our PM says and wish he wasn't the PM. Now, hypothetically speaking say if he was to pass away 2mor, altho I don't agree with his views at all, I wouldn't dear to start making jokes about him. He has family and the rest of it who are considered about his reputation, even in death.

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:49 am
by Riddles
I disagree with that to be honest. We make jokes about people all the time, and just because someone is no longer among the living does not stop that. Why should we have some new "respect" for someone because they have died? We aren't being offensive, we're being humorous.
The only reason jokes are made around someone's death is because it brings them back into the spotlight, not because mocking the dead is fun.

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:51 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
Genevieve wrote:
wub wrote:
garethom wrote:
wub wrote:
mIrReN wrote:yeah but Paul Walker didn't save humanity
Did the Fast & Furious franchise touch more people than ending Apartheid? Only history will tell us.
Stop being such a boy Wub, be a man.
Image
Did you guys know I originally posted the video of this guy here on DSF?

That's my legacy to DSF.
nah your legacy is the porn star thread.

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:52 am
by garethom
nitz wrote: Death should never be a matter of comedy, unless the person in question did crazy stuff, i.e crimes against humanity. Hitler or someone alike.
Like signing off on terrorist attacks that killed innocent people?
Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station.
Two of the ANC’s biggest donors, in the 1990s, were Colonel Muammar Gaddafi of Libya and President Suharto of Indonesia . Not only did Mandela refrain from criticising their lamentable human rights records but he interceded diplomatically on their behalf, and awarded them South Africa ‘s highest honour.
He did a lot of good for the natives of South Africa, that's undoubtable, but it's almost never entirely good vs entirely bad. So many "good" characters from history have very dark sides.

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:55 am
by Electric_Head
Mandela was the kind of guy that would appreciate a good death joke.
Seriously.

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:55 am
by Genevieve
Nevalo wrote:nah your legacy is the porn star thread.
Yeah I'm more proud of that anyway.

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:56 am
by garethom
Genevieve wrote:
Nevalo wrote:nah your legacy is the porn star thread.
Yeah I'm more proud of that anyway.
Fedora nod should be resized and made into a smiley. It's become far too necessary.

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:57 am
by Genevieve


Here is the source material without the watermark!

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:58 am
by nitz
Riddles wrote:I disagree with that to be honest. We make jokes about people all the time, and just because someone is no longer among the living does not stop that. Why should we have some new "respect" for someone because they have died? We aren't being offensive, we're being humorous.
The only reason jokes are made around someone's death is because it brings them back into the spotlight, not because mocking the dead is fun.
I'm going to have to disagree with that. When someone passes away, especially someone of the caliber of Mandela, they do to get a 'form' for new respect. They are not living thus can't not defend their respect. If he was alive and well, and someone disagreed with his freedom fighting motion, Mandela would have expained and defended himself, whilst this is not applicable when you're death.

Micheal Jackson's IP rights are more valuable upon death than alive

Vincent van Gogh - nobody cared about his work when he was living. He also had mental health problems. Yet, look at his respect and value of his work now.

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:03 am
by nowaysj
Look at when Jedi's die, and then they become kind of shimmery and holographic.

Re: RIP Mandela

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:04 am
by garethom
nitz wrote:
Riddles wrote:I disagree with that to be honest. We make jokes about people all the time, and just because someone is no longer among the living does not stop that. Why should we have some new "respect" for someone because they have died? We aren't being offensive, we're being humorous.
The only reason jokes are made around someone's death is because it brings them back into the spotlight, not because mocking the dead is fun.
I'm going to have to disagree with that. When someone passes away, especially someone of the caliber of Mandela, they do to get a 'form' for new respect. They are not living thus can't not defend their respect. If he was alive and well, and someone disagreed with his freedom fighting motion, Mandela would have expained and defended himself, whilst this is not applicable when you're death.

Micheal Jackson's IP rights are more valuable upon death than alive

Vincent van Gogh - nobody cared about his work when he was living. He also had mental health problems. Yet, look at his respect and value of his work now.
And all the jokes about Van Gogh's ear haven't diminished that.

Mandela doesn't need to defend his respect. Everybody knows the good he did. We don't forget that when we make a humourous comment.