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that's how i feel about fl and the step sequencermisk wrote:Working with Live has improved my arrangements - primarily due to the pattern mentality i would get myself into in renoise.
Would like to burn my final remark in honor of the one and only, Daniel Johnston.jesslem wrote:Why would you use a workstation that effectively keeps you from making music?
I see what you mean in a lack of vision, I think it's a personal vision. What music do you want to make, and how are you able to make it. It seems like Renoise was your best tool, and dropping it for some other daw (presumably for the big names that use it) is a pretty bum move man.
I remember when I started working with DAWs other than FL, and I expected them to make my music better, but they won't. Only the decisions you make from the mouse and keyboard end of your computer can make a difference.
If Burial, believe me no pressure, made it to national headlines with SoundForge, I recon you can do it with Renoise.
Good luck.
Imagine if [insert band/artist name] switched to [insert irrelevant instrument name] half way through their ascent.
Reminds me of the song lyricsLTUK wrote:wake up, have a spliff and wait for magic to happen
nah fuck thatsnick01 wrote:Anyway, I struggle to finish a song a month, even every 2. Always have, always will. I just jump between things too quick, a very short attention span
Agree on this - FORCE YOURSELF TO FINISH TRACKSdididub wrote:nah fuck thatsnick01 wrote:Anyway, I struggle to finish a song a month, even every 2. Always have, always will. I just jump between things too quick, a very short attention span
defeatist attitude
work hard and improve
)Yes, major agree. Just get the whole thing laid out and then it will be obvious what needs to be done, and with the grace of god, you'll be able to do what needs to be done.wub wrote:And guarantee you'll have had ideas about how to develop it further whilst doing the above.
I do actively work on this, trying to finish songs, but then i get another idea in my head and want to start that before i forget it haha.wub wrote:Agree on this - FORCE YOURSELF TO FINISH TRACKSdididub wrote:nah fuck thatsnick01 wrote:Anyway, I struggle to finish a song a month, even every 2. Always have, always will. I just jump between things too quick, a very short attention span
defeatist attitude
work hard and improve
Not one for forcing creativity, however if you have a good 16 bar loop but can't develop it, just take what you have and turn into a tune. For example;
Not the longest or most comprehensive tune ever made, but it is essentially a finished tune even if it's a little on the short side. And guarantee you'll have had ideas about how to develop it further whilst doing the above.
- 16 bar loop
- copy four times
- Stagger the elements in at the start of the first 16 bars
- Stagger the elements out (not in the same order as they came in) for the last 16 bars
- Remove half the elements between the second and third 16 bars
- Add a white noise riser (semi srs
- Finished tune
Get a notebook.snick01 wrote:but then i get another idea in my head and want to start that before i forget it haha.
Yes!nowaysj wrote:Well, a lot of musical ideas are too intricate for note booking.
And I'm down with 2-3 minute songs. Like keep it moving already. Major indulgences happening out there.
There is a lot of that in Dubs board, one of my most frequent bits of feedback is that a tune is twice as long as it needs to be. A lot of people just duplicating the first half of the tune after the drop for the sake of getting it to 5mins when it doesn't need to be.snick01 wrote:Yes!nowaysj wrote:Well, a lot of musical ideas are too intricate for note booking.
And I'm down with 2-3 minute songs. Like keep it moving already. Major indulgences happening out there.
so many songs i hear and think, "this was over 3 minutes ago, why is this still playing". If i wanted to hear the exact same thing again, id listen to the track again!
Its almost as if there is a law that says tracks have to be 5mins long that everyone is sticking to.