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Harkat wrote:

Cheeky wrote:Something to think about-
If it's wrong and potentially racist for white people to appropriate black culture in art, is it also racist for black people to appropriate white culture in art? and does this even happen?

This isn't my definitive opinion, just want to get a discussion going and see what other people think

The people who argue that "appropriation" is wrong wholesale like that are actually very few and far between. But they would probably say the power dynamic between white people and black people means black people can't actually appropriate from white people in an oppressive manner.

good point man.i think sometimes appropriation is a positive thing and can help bridge gaps and misunderstanding between different cultures etc, but it has to be done in the appropriate context.

art must be unencumbered with worries of offending anyone etc.

art should exist outside the spectrum of morality

i.m.o.

sd5 wrote:cool
nobody disputing that art is fucking useless

therefore artists should go get a job
like growing vegetables
or healing the sick

and all you would-b producers
indulge yourselves at the expense of your fellow humans

what do you do again?

& the idea that black people can't possibly imagine a hi-tech future belongs in the UKIP thread tbh

primarily white culture tho. not saying they can't imagine it ffs. altho i do think afrofuturism is lame

ultraspatial wrote:altho i do think afrofuturism is lame

ultraspatial wrote:primarily white culture tho. not saying they can't imagine it ffs. altho i do think afrofuturism is lame

isn't saying they appropriated it pretty much the same as saying they couldn't come up with it themselves tho?

no

dididub wrote:art must be unencumbered with worries of offending anyone etc.

art should exist outside the spectrum of morality

i.m.o.

I'd agree to an extent. Art can be as offensive as the creator makes it, provided there's some kind of message behind it rather than just for the sake of offending people (all imo of course)

ultraspatial wrote:no

fair dues.

you should read into underground resistance if you get a chance, there's a bit more to them than some white boi sci fi

Afrofuturism is inherently contentious for many reasons. I've heard it argued that the whole idea of futurity/modernity - linear progress - is a Western construct, so it already brings some Europeanisms to the table. However, given that the African diaspora's music has become all but inseparable from global pop music at large you could say it's irrelevant or just part of the ongoing dialog between these currents.