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jesslem wrote:

DiegoSapiens wrote:

wub wrote:Punk was gestated in an environment of social unrest, young people with no job prospects, recession.

this is clearly not the case of deep house lol there isn't a more burgoise music in the game than deep house

Wub's out of touch with the plight of the legitimately urban youth.

Everyone is affected this time, not just the working class. I'm sure it was different back in the 70s

If you consider the ages of most of these people, you'll soon realize that scrounging off mum and dad, while working part time at the local petshop to fund their weekly substance abuses, puts them out of affectation's way.

wub wrote:

magma wrote:Punk did and still does even if it's become known enough to have developed a "Pop" side. Deep House is about as apolitical a genre as I can imagine... Punk may have strayed to various degrees from its worthy roots, but even in 2014 there are people making truly Punk music under the Punk umbrella. Pussy Riot are a punk band.

See previous point...the lack of political 'message' behind the scene is second fiddle to the fans of said scene wanting to go out and enjoy themselves. Shorter cycle, less gestation, therefore fewer core ideals other than wanting to dance, get fucked up and laid are really abounding for it's followers.

By those points almost all 'youth' music could be described as punk... it's not punk's audience that made it punk, it was its musicians and the messages they brought. The angst of the disenfranchised youth has been embedded in musical movements since the turn of the 20th century... most great genres of music can be traced back to someone who was clearly having a properly shit time of it... it's not the angst that makes punk punk any more than angst made the New Romantics punk. It's the complete disregard for musical and sartorial standards in the face of getting an anti-establishment message across that makes punk punk. Real punk bands (not punk-style pop bands) are still doing that... Pussy Riot are *shit* but they're one of the best punk bands of my lifetime. Blink 182 are an incredibly effective pop band who have clearly been influenced by punk, but they're not punk. Saying "Fuck the man" isn't punk today because everyone's been saying "Fuck the man" for nearly 4 decades. Punk evolves to fight new battles after it's won them for the mainstream... if you're still singing "God Bless The Queen" in 2014, you're most likely not a punk. You might even be an X Factor contestant. If you're getting locked up for a guerrilla protest gig at your local Olympics, you probably ARE punk.

Breakcore definitely felt punk for a few years.

Agent 47 also has fuck all on Sid Vicious. Billie Joe Armstrong or Travis Barker, perhaps...

If SNH members were the new punk, who would be which acclaimed punk personality?

Another shit thread from Jayd- wait a minute?

They seem like the complete opposite genres in regards to deep house people seem more like they just want to fit in and follow whatever is currently hot at the moment while wearing their expensive clothes.(I have nothing against expensive clothing) They don't feel the need to revolt/ stand up against anything and feel happy with their middle class life.

You think people didn't go to punk concerts and play in punk bands because it was cool?

i think what wub means is some kids back then listened to music and now these new kids listen to music... so them musics are the same basically

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jesslem wrote:You think people didn't go to punk concerts and play in punk bands because it was cool?

Surely they did but I don't feel punk is accessible as deep house.

Only because of the lack of internet tbh.

its just the internet imo

music hasnt got worse or less meaningful its just that u hear every tune in the first week of it being a genre. i think that will stop any real musical movements from ever happening again tbf

non of u would like punk if it happened now, even if it was exactly the same tunes

wolf might like it, but cant think of any one else

maybe the government banning the web is 4 the best

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Agent 47 wrote:non of u would like punk if it happened now, even if it was exactly the same tunes

wolf might like it, but cant think of any one else

Can't be serious

Agent 47 wrote:its just the internet imo

music hasnt got worse or less meaningful its just that u hear every tune in the first week of it being a genre. i think that will stop any real musical movements from ever happening again tbf

non of u would like punk if it happened now, even if it was exactly the same tunes

wolf might like it, but cant think of any one else

Been discussed on here a million times before but there probably won't be any rigidly defined genres on the scale of dubstep again

i think i would, although i'm not big into being spat on on nights out

so who is deep house's ian mackaye figure then, self made hardworking ethical anti/authority/capitalist

garethom wrote:

Agent 47 wrote:non of u would like punk if it happened now, even if it was exactly the same tunes

wolf might like it, but cant think of any one else

Can't be serious

Punk is quite awful, Gareth.
It's so melodically bland that you can't realistically say that you'd appreciate it for its musicality, and you of all people would be the first to scream "fukkin entitled kids" if it were to come out now.

With regard to the musicality, you can draw the same conclusion from the fact that this thread is filled with posts discussing only the rebellious merit of the music, which is conveyed in lyricism.

think he was on about my wolf joke

also,

house is confusing a/f atm

cus there deep house and theres deep house

theres tech house and theres tech house

i never get which ones we're on about when we take the piss

lawdamercy i am butthurt by today's posts hahahaa

i dont appreciate technical skill in the genre, but it has some of the catchiest music ever imo man (and i'm not just talking about pop punk)

I've met Ian McKay twice.