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Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:08 pm
by hubb
jesslem wrote:
hubb wrote:The forced educational facility he went to is likely to be the same as general prison where I'm from.

ps

she looks like an even scrawneyer Gwyneth
Forced?

You realize he went there because his mum made him?
It's like supernanny or some shit lol

It falls back on your ability to comprehend the important bit in my argument.


If Earl were to haul himself in the midst of a media discussion where his part is trying out a really constructed attempt at a deformation of her character her being a protected culture rolemodel icon and all, then something like that will still paint him like I said.

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:26 pm
by kidshuffle
rayman612 wrote:Lol shes perpetuating black stereotypes by making a video that looks like (from that stillframe) any1 of any many black artist's videos.
Parodying the coonery that is BET still perpetuates stereotypes.

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:30 pm
by hubb
It's hard to argue that it is parody though.

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:37 pm
by nobody
does anyone here think the video is actually racist?

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:49 pm
by Harkat
There's a bit with some asses in it. There's also a bit where she's dressed in stereotypical hip hop uniform.

TBH I only watched about two minutes but I don't get what's racist or perpetuating stereotypes in it.

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:51 pm
by dickman69
kidshuffle wrote:
rayman612 wrote:Lol shes perpetuating black stereotypes by making a video that looks like (from that stillframe) any1 of any many black artist's videos.
Parodying the coonery that is BET still perpetuates stereotypes.
the whole get on twitter & call a white person perpetuating black stereotypes thing is blah

if youre really upset about it earl, go make talib kweli facebook posts everyday


isnt all their favorite hip hop guys clipse? who made every video in the hood about selling crack

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:52 pm
by sixs
nah but the utter state of her in it :lol: can't stop looking at the screen cap

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:34 pm
by kidshuffle
hubb wrote:It's hard to argue that it is parody though.
Even if its not a parody, you know they're doing that to at least be ironic. You know it.

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:42 pm
by nobody
Do you guys think Tyler is a racist for doing white face? I can't imagine the response if a white person did black face for a music video. Or is it different?

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:58 pm
by wub
nobody wrote:Do you guys think Tyler is a racist for doing white face? I can't imagine the response if a white person did black face for a music video. Or is it different?
It's different. Black people are allowed to do white face as it's societies way of apologising and giving them a ruffle of the hair for centuries of oppression. For further evidence;

Image

Can't see this being allowed if it was a couple of white actors dressing up like black women.


It's the same reason Israel is allowed to do whatever the fuck it wants and the everyone turns a blind away as a way of alleviating their guilt about the holocaust. The sooner the western world gets over that and gives Israel the bitch slap it deserves, the better.

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:01 pm
by Harkat
So not being able to dress up in blackface is basically like being bombed by the Irsaelis, got it.

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:06 pm
by nobody
Harkat wrote:So not being able to dress up in blackface is basically like being bombed by the Irsaelis, got it.
In a way it's worse! think about it

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:12 pm
by wub
Harkat wrote:So not being able to dress up in blackface is basically like being bombed by the Irsaelis, got it.
Not what I said at all.

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:15 pm
by Harkat
Ok, you used the analogy of "Isreal's behaviour is some bullshit, but is tolerated on account of past persecution" to describe why it's acceptable for black people to perform in white-face but not vice versa.

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:15 pm
by kidshuffle
Dressing in black face (which black people also did btw) for minstrel shows was a way to dehumanize the black race...I dont see why anyone wouldn't even bring up whiteface as any sort of racism, especially considering how little its been done :?

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:16 pm
by hubb
Wubs was a weird analogy but perfectly applicapable.

@ Nobody

You can never really compare the two because one is quite the minority.

I would argue that it's almost ok for afro americans to still be racist in 2014.

I would be offended if the accepted and used term for me was scandi american.

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:17 pm
by wub
Harkat wrote:tolerated on account of past persecution
Yes.

However, we must be mindful of concept of scale here. I am in no way suggesting that the two examples are equal at all.

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:18 pm
by nobody
hubb wrote:
I would argue that it's almost ok for afro americans to still be racist in 2014.

Who exactly are they allowed to be racist to? Just white people? Anyone who's not black?

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:24 pm
by Harkat
wub wrote:
Harkat wrote:tolerated on account of past persecution
Yes.

However, we must be mindful of concept of scale here. I am in no way suggesting that the two examples are equal at all.
I got that. You're saying it's the same in principle though, which I don't agree with.

Re: Taylor Swift Is "Perpetuating Black Stereotypes"

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:32 pm
by hubb
I did an edit btw


But yeah that is a really profound question tbh, but the answer is more positive than you would expect, because the functioning principle in racism is not directed hatred towards a specific group although everybody and their mum says that.
It's actually to not include someone - the exclusion itself, because it's in societal terms and not on the individual level that matters, and even the accepted lingual term afro- something is excluding, right?
So in that sence afro-americans aren't included on the same terms yet.

It's also just on a quick math level more understandable because their group is smaller. Which means there's a slower frequency of any form of unique exchange.