Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:46 pm
and look what it did to dnbramadanman wrote:what's frustrating is that there were exactly the same discussions regarding DnB just a few years ago....
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:51 pm
it did nothing to dnbTNT wrote:and look what it did to dnbramadanman wrote:what's frustrating is that there were exactly the same discussions regarding DnB just a few years ago....
it's just people talking on message boards
nobody really takes any notice
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:00 pm
Dubstepforum are all a bunch of mass-debatersjuliun_c90 wrote:if only coki knew that his latest and biggest would divide a nation and lead to a mass-debate.
ramadanman wrote:what's frustrating is that there were exactly the same discussions regarding DnB just a few years ago....
^What he said4linehaiku wrote:And exactly the same discussions regarding Dubstep just a few days ago.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:02 pm
if clownstep is anything to do with ed cox and life4land clowncore then its accordian played over a dubstep backing track. clowncore is fucking nang saw it banged out at italiatek this year at the z-shed. the boy has some talent
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:06 pm
*spanks one off to latest debategravious wrote: Dubstepforum are all a bunch of mass-debaters
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:07 pm
Clownstep != Clowncore.
Neither is particularily my cup of tea. Ed Cox is mainly breakcore with accordian over the top, didn't know he did dubstep stuff as well.
http://myspace.com/edcoxlife4land
People went nuts for it when he played in Edinburgh, horses for courses I guess. Probably hilarious if you're suitably sedated.
Neither is particularily my cup of tea. Ed Cox is mainly breakcore with accordian over the top, didn't know he did dubstep stuff as well.
http://myspace.com/edcoxlife4land
People went nuts for it when he played in Edinburgh, horses for courses I guess. Probably hilarious if you're suitably sedated.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:13 pm
in most circumstances I would agreesubvert47 wrote:it did nothing to dnbTNT wrote:and look what it did to dnbramadanman wrote:what's frustrating is that there were exactly the same discussions regarding DnB just a few years ago....
it's just people talking on message boards
nobody really takes any notice
but this forum practicaly defines Dubstep online in any case
put dubstep in google for example..
and how many hits/lurks do we get a day here, something insane isnt it?
im just scared good folks wont find their place here coz its a battleground for armchair critics and devils advocates, and the bad guys will come and pick fights.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:15 pm
It's amazing that people can get so worked up over a genre of music.
I think it's just a reflection of the type of people that go on music forums generally- a lot of them have lives that are more dominated by music, they think about it more, they want to discuss it and define it and I suppose ultimately in a sense control it.
But I don't think this forum is perhaps as representative as it once may have been of the 'scene'. Go to most big nights and the dissenting voices on this forum would amount to a quite small group of people standing at the back moaning and sighing in time to the wubwubs.
I suppose there's a lot of anxiety in the strength of that dissent, and it will probably escalate if a status quo becomes more established in the music- after all, nobody wants to become marginalised. For me the question has never ultimately been about whether or not I think a certain kind of tune is shit- as Blackdown said in that thread about macho wobbler tunes, it's about a question of balance. I've never liked everything dubstep had to offer, even in 2005 when the standard was (imo) generally higher- but what I liked was that what I did like was given as much room as what I didn't. I don't think anybody wants or expects to control the direction the music goes in, but people can't be expected not to express their concern or anxiety over what they perceive as the possible marginalisation of deeper more atmospheric and rhytmically interesting music. I agree though that terms like 'clownstep' don't really help anyone, just as the term 'neekstep' (generally found in dnb though not yet in dubstep- although how long will that take if 'clownstep' is already being thrown about?) doesn't help anyone.
There are plenty of producers, DJs and nights catering for those people who don't want to hear wall to wall wobblers and dubstep is in a very healthy state really. But then I suppose even that is showcasing a split.
Ahhh neurosis! Bring on the bonkers conkers
I think it's just a reflection of the type of people that go on music forums generally- a lot of them have lives that are more dominated by music, they think about it more, they want to discuss it and define it and I suppose ultimately in a sense control it.
But I don't think this forum is perhaps as representative as it once may have been of the 'scene'. Go to most big nights and the dissenting voices on this forum would amount to a quite small group of people standing at the back moaning and sighing in time to the wubwubs.
I suppose there's a lot of anxiety in the strength of that dissent, and it will probably escalate if a status quo becomes more established in the music- after all, nobody wants to become marginalised. For me the question has never ultimately been about whether or not I think a certain kind of tune is shit- as Blackdown said in that thread about macho wobbler tunes, it's about a question of balance. I've never liked everything dubstep had to offer, even in 2005 when the standard was (imo) generally higher- but what I liked was that what I did like was given as much room as what I didn't. I don't think anybody wants or expects to control the direction the music goes in, but people can't be expected not to express their concern or anxiety over what they perceive as the possible marginalisation of deeper more atmospheric and rhytmically interesting music. I agree though that terms like 'clownstep' don't really help anyone, just as the term 'neekstep' (generally found in dnb though not yet in dubstep- although how long will that take if 'clownstep' is already being thrown about?) doesn't help anyone.
There are plenty of producers, DJs and nights catering for those people who don't want to hear wall to wall wobblers and dubstep is in a very healthy state really. But then I suppose even that is showcasing a split.
Ahhh neurosis! Bring on the bonkers conkers
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:30 pm
D-Code wrote:LETS ALL BE CLOWNS!!! YAY!
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:32 pm
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:36 pm
Innit.Corpsey wrote:For me the question has never ultimately been about whether or not I think a certain kind of tune is shit- as Blackdown said in that thread about macho wobbler tunes, it's about a question of balance. I've never liked everything dubstep had to offer, even in 2005 when the standard was (imo) generally higher- but what I liked was that what I did like was given as much room as what I didn't. I don't think anybody wants or expects to control the direction the music goes in, but people can't be expected not to express their concern or anxiety over what they perceive as the possible marginalisation of deeper more atmospheric and rhytmically interesting music.
How many people are actually genuinely hating on wobblers / bangers / whatever? People keep implying that loads of people are saying "I HATE TEH WOBBLE RUSKO CAN FACK OFF INNIT" when mostly they're just saying that they wouldn't mind, y'know, hearing a bit more diversity at certain nights.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:40 pm
Well said Corpsey, especially "Go to most big nights and the dissenting voices on this forum would amount to a quite small group of people standing at the back moaning and sighing in time to the wubwubs"
At a recent night while very quickly going for a piss during a fantastic set, I couldn't believe that there were a group of people actually standing in there discussing 'real dubstep' and bitching about god knows what. WTF??? And, there was me feeling guilty for leaving the floor for 2 mins...
At a recent night while very quickly going for a piss during a fantastic set, I couldn't believe that there were a group of people actually standing in there discussing 'real dubstep' and bitching about god knows what. WTF??? And, there was me feeling guilty for leaving the floor for 2 mins...
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:52 pm
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:01 pm
so... no top 10, huh?
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:21 pm
post of the daymushug wrote:
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:43 pm
your mind listens to the beats while your ass moves to the bassline (c) source direct
so there you go...
P.S. almost forgot: IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE PERSON
so there you go...
P.S. almost forgot: IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE PERSON
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:52 pm
hahaha!mushug wrote:
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:05 pm
<--- Yep, thanks!!
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:10 pm
first time i heard that i was in the west indian centre in nottigham, n mc spyda n his crew were all over it, it sounded amazing.forensix (mcr) wrote:who remembers hearing "bodyrock" about 15 times in one night
cant imagine spyda mc'in to clownstep nowadays though.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:26 pm
If you don't like it, don't listen to it.
Out to the back-of-the-room-chin-scratchers. Your time, you stnuc.
Out to the back-of-the-room-chin-scratchers. Your time, you stnuc.