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there was some production talk in this thread... not a complete fail

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I prefer this pattern

some of u took this serious, this is kind of a parody on wobble threads.

feasible_weasel wrote: some of u took this serious, this is kind of a parody on wobble threads.

Wow you had us there


How do I make melodies again?

Shonky wrote:

feasible_weasel wrote: some of u took this serious, this is kind of a parody on wobble threads.

Wow you had us there


How do I make melodies again?

To make a melody, you must first...

Hey, wait! Is this a piss take? Why I oughta...

Shonky wrote:

feasible_weasel wrote: some of u took this serious, this is kind of a parody on wobble threads.

Wow you had us there


How do I make melodies again?

steal a reggae sample
or just play around until u find something u like...

two oh one wrote:

Shonky wrote:

feasible_weasel wrote: some of u took this serious, this is kind of a parody on wobble threads.

Wow you had us there


How do I make melodies again?

To make a melody, you must first...

Hey, wait! Is this a piss take? Why I oughta...

I did really like that hit random keys until you find something you like idea, never thought of that one.

quite simply, if it doesn't have kick on 1, snare on 9, and a synch'd LFO assigned to cutoff on a unison square or saw wave-- it ain't dubstep, and no amount of hihat trickery is gonna change that.

TeReKeTe wrote:quite simply, if it doesn't have kick on 1, snare on 9, and a synch'd LFO assigned to cutoff on a unison square or saw wave-- it ain't dubstep, and no amount of hihat trickery is gonna change that.

Don't forget that you have to refer to the table to get the correct compression for that kick on the 1. By the numbers, deviate at your own risk.

TeReKeTe wrote:quite simply, if it doesn't have kick on 1, snare on 9, and a synch'd LFO assigned to cutoff on a unison square or saw wave-- it ain't dubstep, and no amount of hihat trickery is gonna change that.

Shit, I've been going so wrong. Should I also try and remove any trace of groove and try and turn it into some subbed up trip hop too?

I've been using nothing but triplets lately and they slip and slide like an greasy eel. They even make halfstep danceable and less lumbering.

But, people ignored the track and instead raved about something that sounded like everything else, instead. It's an uphill struggle.

two oh one wrote: But, people ignored the track and instead raved about something that sounded like everything else, instead. It's an uphill struggle.

Fuck em man, really, fuck em.

It's this sheeplike mentality that's turning dubstep into a parody of what it could have been.

Shonky wrote:

two oh one wrote: But, people ignored the track and instead raved about something that sounded like everything else, instead. It's an uphill struggle.

Fuck em man, really, fuck em.

It's this sheeplike mentality that's turning dubstep into a parody of what it could have been.

Yeah. It has definitely changed in this last year. Shame.


Strangely enough, I just panicked when listening to a grooving drum track I did. I thought it wasn't at 70/140 bpm because it feels way quicker. I had to tap tempo it to make sure it was proper. And it was.

two oh one wrote:

Shonky wrote:

two oh one wrote: But, people ignored the track and instead raved about something that sounded like everything else, instead. It's an uphill struggle.

Fuck em man, really, fuck em.

It's this sheeplike mentality that's turning dubstep into a parody of what it could have been.

Yeah. It has definitely changed in this last year. Shame.


Strangely enough, I just panicked when listening to a grooving drum track I did. I thought it wasn't at 70/140 bpm because it feels way quicker. I had to tap tempo it to make sure it was proper. And it was.

which r all reasons why making a genre, rather than just music, is not a good idea in my opinion

the scene may have turned into a 'parody', but the important thing is that YOU as an artist dont.

i couldnt care less what happens to dubstep. there always b music...if u'll excuse the cheesy line

unfortunately, whatever the genre, there'll always b sheeplike producers, and the closed minded masses that cling to their tales like so much encrusted shit

two oh one wrote:I've been using nothing but triplets lately and they slip and slide like an greasy eel.

isnt that a type of sushi roll??

yeah

the triplets have been good to me as well

Actually getting back on topic, I think it's all about using as little quantize as possible, playing drums on your keyboard over 8 bars and then isolating the part of that that works and then layering over the top.

James Brown never drew on a grid remember

two oh one wrote: Yeah. It has definitely changed in this last year. Shame.

yeah you're feeling that too eh?

decklyn wrote:

two oh one wrote: Yeah. It has definitely changed in this last year. Shame.

yeah you're feeling that too eh?

Yeah, definitely.

It seemed that people used to want things that sounded different. People were excited to hear how Dubstep could sound when different producers tackled it, but now people just want to hear something louder and ruder than what came before it. Shame really. I don't know if the more open minded people have moved on, or if the influx of new heads who expect wobble + lollop is throwing things off the balance it once had.

"This track is massive! It sounds like everything else! Big ups"



I know a load of producers that I respect on this board are feeling the same way. And it's shitty to see them so disheartened with the whole thing as they've got so much to give the scene.

Anyway. Arses.

How do I make a wobble with fruity, innit?



Non-Quantizing is actually fun, Shonky. When I've done that, I've usually made a tight sequenced beat, play everything live over the top, then go back and delete the original beat and replace it with a new live one. Should explore it more, yeah?

Yer i like to lay a quantised beat then doodle over it live and unquantised then take out bits or leave them layered. Tis good fun..

And i can understand how you are disheartened with the scene 2oh.. But really, it's probably a bit too much forum reading or something... When i scope out different producers, and listen to these 'dubstep' artists from round the world, there are so many people interpretting it in different ways and a whole lot of variation and different tangents...

Thats my view anyway, from someone whos only been into this shit for about a year and has scoped out all the old stuff i've missed to the new...

I think the forum is more negative and keen to poke holes in 'dubstep' what i think is brimming with fresh ideas and producers...

i thought it was a kick on 1 and 9
and a snare or clap or summat on 9.
and hihats shakers and cowbells