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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:21 pm
by djsence
I am a hardcore dj (not happy) and i LOVE playing dubstep. Too bad I can not play it more at raves, I usually drop the dub at the 21+ club nights that pop off around here.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:37 pm
by [b]racket
B0TTR0P wrote: But, seriously, what does Dubstep have to do with that boom boom techno shit that got played way back in 1997?

Next you'll be saying Tiesto played a part in the scene!

Wasteman.
:lol:

1997?

You clearly know everything about nothing...and not too much about that.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:37 pm
by jim
Pretty much 100% sure that guy is on the wind-up after his "my mate says Burial is Banksy" thread from earlier on today.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:38 pm
by chu
Anyone with any clout knows dubstep started in '94.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:52 pm
by Horza
Dubstepper wrote:
scoz wrote:dubstep's just slowed down d'n'b and wobbley basslines while techno's just boom boom music innit...
I duno if this is true, i have heard several people say this. But even if Dubstep is slowed down dnb then i couldnt care less. The only thing i care about is the fact i love Dubstep. Allso i hate dnb its way to fast to dance to imo it just sounds crap, the only thing i find that has any merit about dnb is that it is piss easy to mix. Every dnb tune i have heard sounds like the next, like the beat allways seems the same, just with some different samples in them, as apossed to Dubstep you have 4x4 beats half step 2step all the wobbles and different sounding bass sounds, mabe im wrong about my statement on all dnb tunes sounding the same, becoz i have only listened to a little of it. I.E when listening to a garage set or wot not and they decide to start playing dnb, i listen for a bit but just cant handle how crap it sounds, Especilly when you can see the dj playing the dnb, they either sort of stand still no body movement or they bop thier head up and down at 100mph to the beats, makes me crease up
and please dnb heads dont go gettin all offended and pissy bout what i wrote. Coz no offence intended.
Ps sorry for double post, i only posted it once :?
Before I start I aint being pissy just wanna question what you're saying hehe You could say that mate but thats why you can categorize it , just like you can categorize most forms of music no matter how irrelevant they are. i.e. Thats Techno music, thats folk music etc etc.

A lot of DnB does have a similar drum pattern, but so does Dubstep. Thats why you can say "Half-Step, 2-Step, 4/4" :wink: And then every so often you get something with a different beat structure and something interesting, and usually they're the keepers! :)

If you feel that way about DnB I should make a mix and see if I can surprise you with something a bit different :wink:

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:07 pm
by dubstepper
Horza wrote:
Dubstepper wrote:
scoz wrote:dubstep's just slowed down d'n'b and wobbley basslines while techno's just boom boom music innit...
I duno if this is true, i have heard several people say this. But even if Dubstep is slowed down dnb then i couldnt care less. The only thing i care about is the fact i love Dubstep. Allso i hate dnb its way to fast to dance to imo it just sounds crap, the only thing i find that has any merit about dnb is that it is piss easy to mix. Every dnb tune i have heard sounds like the next, like the beat allways seems the same, just with some different samples in them, as apossed to Dubstep you have 4x4 beats half step 2step all the wobbles and different sounding bass sounds, mabe im wrong about my statement on all dnb tunes sounding the same, becoz i have only listened to a little of it. I.E when listening to a garage set or wot not and they decide to start playing dnb, i listen for a bit but just cant handle how crap it sounds, Especilly when you can see the dj playing the dnb, they either sort of stand still no body movement or they bop thier head up and down at 100mph to the beats, makes me crease up
and please dnb heads dont go gettin all offended and pissy bout what i wrote. Coz no offence intended.
Ps sorry for double post, i only posted it once :?
Before I start I aint being pissy just wanna question what you're saying hehe You could say that mate but thats why you can categorize it , just like you can categorize most forms of music no matter how irrelevant they are. i.e. Thats Techno music, thats folk music etc etc.

A lot of DnB does have a similar drum pattern, but so does Dubstep. Thats why you can say "Half-Step, 2-Step, 4/4" :wink: And then every so often you get something with a different beat structure and something interesting, and usually they're the keepers! :)

If you feel that way about DnB I should make a mix and see if I can surprise you with something a bit different :wink:
Im up for that mate, if you want to post up a mix i will deff give it a listen, i mean i dont think i will ever really get into dnb, but if you think you got some shit that may surprise me go for it

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:24 pm
by upreal
there is no point arguing whatsoever. there is a point listening to dubstep if you like dubstep and listening to something else if you like something else though. there is no universal truth about which music is the crappiest (I've heard people say that dnb is all the same stuff repeating, then I've heard it some more about dubstep, then I've realized I've been hearing this all the way about every single music genre. I say let the hatred begin, I personally love to hate)

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:18 pm
by __________
hardcore is shit. dubstep has at least 2 more drums, making it at least 3 times as good by my calculations

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:21 pm
by umkhontowesizwe
happy hardcore was good when it still had breaks. which was a long time ago.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:01 pm
by jred
frist time i came across happyhardcore a mate n i walk into a packed club wasted off our bricks saw and heard the vibe of it all colapsed with hysterical laughter till our sides hurt and we had to leave , so i think they can have there opinnion cos if there into that shit best they stay well away from dubstep, i can image what they would wana do with it :lol: :lol: :lol: oh dear happyhardcore :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:20 pm
by thc
UmkhontoWeSizwe wrote:happy hardcore was good when it still had breaks. which was a long time ago.
hehe, i agree
it's not the high pitched vocals or cheesey synths i dont like about happy hardcore, it's the lack of drums and a big bassline

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:38 pm
by electric eliminator
two oh one wrote: '93 it was only of interest to big eared boys on farms.
Bang on the money there ma friend.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:39 pm
by delendi
i couldn't be arsed to read everything... but i'm inclined to let the happy hardcore people dislike dubstep if they want, and for the reason of samey-ness... because when i first started listenin to happy hardcore i thought it all sounded the same and when i first started listenin to GABBA i could only take it for 5 minutes at a time. but i persevered with both, which is what these happy hardcore dj brehs haven't bothered to do, cos they have no need to be into dubstep. if they did they'd notice differences between tunes and wouldn't mock it anymore. you don't need to work yourself up over an uninformed opinion.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:41 pm
by delendi
electric eliminator wrote:
two oh one wrote: '93 it was only of interest to big eared boys on farms.
Bang on the money there ma friend.
and OI, me whole HH vinyl collection is 93 - 95 and i don't have big ears or live on a farm 8)

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:44 pm
by shonky
Delendi wrote:
electric eliminator wrote:
two oh one wrote: '93 it was only of interest to big eared boys on farms.
Bang on the money there ma friend.
and OI, me whole HH vinyl collection is 93 - 95 and i don't have big ears or live on a farm 8)
I always think of that as hardcore rather than happy hardcore which I always think of as that boingy stuff for 13 year olds.

Old skool is fucking excellent. And I do likes a bit of gabba :D

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:51 pm
by delendi
i'unno... i kinda categorise it by 'hmmm... this sounds happy' lol. shit they CLAIM is happy hardcore these days... boy. happy hardcore doesn't exist anymore cos that shit does NOT sound happy.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:56 pm
by shonky
Delendi wrote:i'unno... i kinda categorise it by 'hmmm... this sounds happy' lol. shit they CLAIM is happy hardcore these days... boy. happy hardcore doesn't exist anymore cos that shit does NOT sound happy.
Like 15 pills happy, not really that happy at all

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:27 pm
by delendi
i think of bonkers as happy hardcore right... there was a whole cd of this kinda stuff on the last one i bought (15 or something i think)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/m8qx2w

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:31 pm
by b0ttr0p
[b]racket wrote:
B0TTR0P wrote: But, seriously, what does Dubstep have to do with that boom boom techno shit that got played way back in 1997?

Next you'll be saying Tiesto played a part in the scene!

Wasteman.
:lol:

1997?

You clearly know everything about nothing...and not too much about that.
what you chatting, fool. I was about in 1997. I'm old skool man. Techno parties and that. What do you know, fool? I bet like you only been into this scene since 2001. I been in it since 1996 man.

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:01 am
by xor
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