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I didn't say all that about this track in particular, I was responding to the comment about not understanding that someone would not play things out that contained bigoted lyrics.


With regard to Skeng however, he definitely say's Tec (as in tec 9) for your wife as far as I can tell. Anyway, it's a wicked track and very funny, as I'm sure it's supposed to be.

dubluke wrote:its clearly a song about eating a spicy curry, explaining the lyric "bumfire bumfire bum"

That'd be Jah War, which is not about the difficulty of getting the lid off the chutney when you're eating a curry.

Skeng is a gun not a knife init?

I've had a go at this but there will be loads of mistakes, so if you spot something let me know. Iv'e tried to spell things how they sound rather than proper english. ? marks show I have no idea and it's a best guess.

wi kick you in your face, or we could jump on it aswell

mi nom i nom i nom one (I'm number one) x3

(Verse one)

this one dedicated to all badman
wether ya from manchester or london
wether ya from not london or brixton
(?) put up in a hand
fi nom i nom two
si flow killa man real true
all my brothers are a real deep crew
you don't wanna brush or step on wi shoe
you know I say true
mi nom i nom three
put in the ganja take out the seed
for all dem intelligent people
pon di road side we all smoke weed
yes indeed, thats what wee need,
four, one time we talk (something something)
si dem boy and wi kick off the door
kick of dem door and wi run up wid tha four four
you don't wana see the four four
five, bust my gun and them not stay alive,
take away your son or might take away your wife,
(something something) mi got skill i stab with knife,
tell dem mi nom in nom six,
dem walk with knife when we walk with sticks,
killa (something) dem sound pricks,
down sound pricks wid tha M one six,
tell dem (babylon?) seven,
how much gun (wi got?) bust wid da seven
man don't wanna get us wid da seven,
cos ya only gonna get eleven
(something something) eight
bust my gun shot sound boy at the gate,
wi don't really care if it's early or late,
badman man really wana feight (fight?),
straight, mi nom i nom i nom nine,
tec wid da nine, (s killa nine?) tec nine or tec nine
boy dem can't dis mi it's fine, boy fuck wi mine,
then they get the ten, mac ten,
fi nom i nom ten, tell dem i read em
and tell dem again
no problem


(chorus)

um, skeng, skeng, skeng
mi a killa man bust off the big skeng
skeng, skeng, skeng
mi a killa man wi load tha big skeng
car, car, car,
skeng pon road or skeng in car
car, car, car
mi a killa man (if?) wi roll in a car,
road, road, road,
(something something something) and I walk with sword,
sword, sword, sword,
shot ya in face like dart in a board,
reel, reel, reel,
[possibly] bullet boy one two den tha bumba dem skream,
skream, skream, skream,
who can't hear dem (something something)


(verse 2)

[something something]
see mi pon di roadside rolling
like say ya filly can't roll in
we have da maching ready for dem,
ready for dem,
no make me ave to stroll in,
when the big dogs roll in,
you don't wan see when going shots start [peep(le)?]
it'll be like when dog'a eat tripe (?)
com a to stop a d' war a tell dem,
tell you d'truth a mi no care bout dem,
a rupididupidu mi a got sen fi dupi di dem,
man a bad a man for a long time,
I swear down you can [something something] people dem,
looking on my brother man you don't wanna see man when wi get evil then,
then, then, then,
you don't wanna see me get evil,
evil, evil, evil,
worse, worse, worse,
shot ya in tha face make you send for the nurse,
nurse, nurse, nurse,
doctor can't fix ya send for the hearse,
hearse, hearse, hearse,
doctor can't fix you send for the hearse,
black, black, black,
funeral start everybody in a black,
poper in a suit and muma in a frock,

lines 1-9 of verse 2 repeated.

I think it's perfectly understandable that people would not wish to play out tunes that have bigoted content. I've got a copy of Log On (Horsepower remix) but I'm not going to play the 'Step on chi chi' mix out anywhere as it's quite probable that I'd a)give people the impression that I'm a homophobe and b)offend people. The distribution of bigotry is if not bigotry itself then exceedingly close to bigotry and by playing things out you are by definition distributing them.

When my ex (Jamaican) went to uni, we went to go and have a look at the dance club to see if it was her cup of tea. There were like 6 really uber-gay guys enthusiastically dancing to the original version of 'log on'....possibly one of the most ironically hilarious things I have ever seen!!

To be fair if he is both killing a sodomite (a gay) and a wife (presumably a partner in a traditional heterosexual marriage) then he's an equal opportunities type of guy.

Or maybe the geezer just liked doing his wife up the dave LOL

Merkin wrote: Or maybe the geezer just liked doing his wife up the dave LOL

indeed!

Take a listen to the Boomnoise and Pokes show from 19th September. There's an interview with The Bug and he says "I find it laughable, some of the peoples reactions to it." "If people take this seriously we've got a major problem."

BreakBait wrote:Take a listen to the Boomnoise and Pokes show from 19th September. There's an interview with The Bug and he says "I find it laughable, some of the peoples reactions to it." "If people take this seriously we've got a major problem."

o rlly?

given that a whole lot of similar/related music *is* really violent and homophobic, it's kinda hard to see how at least some people might not take it that way... I hadn't realised it was supposed to be a joke tbh. Not that I'd thought that hard about it.

(Personally I don't really have a problem with violence or whatever in songs, listen to plenty of stuff myself - just isn't the thing I wanna be doing when I'm DJ-ing sorta thing)

Joe C wrote:its a sick track and I still go nuts when it comes on

but I work with kids for a living who love these kinda lyrics, these kinda mcs are their dons, and it makes me fuckin sick when I see 15 year old good clever kids get on the mic with me on the buttons and them come out with copy cat lyrics.. because I see what happens when they have to live up to it and its not pretty.

there is a serious point though, although its really important to note musicians/artists need to say what they wanna say..

but still so many double standards in the scene about this.

I heard that interview and i know the bug & flow done it for a joke but i do agree with this guys sentiments about violence in tunes in general, especially in grime - most young ppl i work with do copycat this style of lyrics and want to just rap about being the biggest badman on road, sad thing is that if you chat that then you feel have to live up to that

I'm listening to it again and it may well say sodomite. But it doesn't quite stress that the sodomy is homosexual so I'm not sure I like the track anymore.

fuck we're analytical!




dont stroke them chins raw

I have been involved in this arguement before and it's quality to see many more people now expressing the ani-violence opinion. I said then that "anyone who has actually had any of this stuff happen to them would smash your record if you played it". The context of the tune is important. I don't think bug actually defended himself from an artistic standpoint cos he didn't enter into the arguement, to paraphrase he said either listen or don't but you can't censor it, and it shouldn't be taken seriously. He likened it to manga with extreme violence; it's a ropey analogy: manga has a plot, characters and often a reason behing the violence. This tune speaks to anyone with a chip on their shoulder: Iv'e cranked it when pissed off. The cliche is that it may affect impressionable people. But isnt there loads of crap, on TV, films, advertising etc that is just as affecting and influences behaviour? buying a fast car and driving like a george clooney (looney) is more destructive. Anyone who wants to play at being anything in these lyrics will encounter a world of pain, hatred, paranoia, misery and self obsession to the point of alienation. If you want lyrics with a message, opt for manuva. Skeng is a quality tune, thats all it is.

good job on the transcripts, much appreciated

Flowdan is in Roll Deep, and they chat bare lyrics like these but I never heard them say they were joking before, so this is just a one off then?

Fractal wrote:fuck we're analytical!




dont stroke them chins raw

i do this with everything in life, its a big problem with me.

cogi wrote: Flowdan is in Roll Deep, and they chat bare lyrics like these but I never heard them say they were joking before

http://www.thesoundstation.org.uk/jsp/N ... jsp?ID=528

"ROLL DEEP TEAM UP WITH POLICE FOR ANTI-GUN TRACK"

stanton wrote:

dubluke wrote:its clearly a song about eating a spicy curry, explaining the lyric "bumfire bumfire bum"

That'd be Jah War, which is not about the difficulty of getting the lid off the chutney when you're eating a curry.

those lyrics really speak to my heart, being unable to get my chutney has caused serious emotional trauma for me in the past

dubluke wrote:its clearly a song about eating a spicy curry, explaining the lyric "bumfire bumfire bum"

SKENG !!!!!!!!!

I like violence in music. At its best it channels destructive violence into something clever, funny, eye-opening and constructive... I like Death Metal, I like The Who, I like Ice Cube... all with violent lyrics. I don't like bigotry, but that's another matter.