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stanton wrote: I started rereading Lurker At The Threshold this morning, though the title of it always strikes me as a rather esoteric euphemism for needing a shit.

Coincidentally, Piston's name always makes me think of a 'Golden Shower'.

Delendi wrote:i reeeeeeeally wish i still had that glossy eyed innocence of youth. my cynicism, lack of trust and apathy is going to wind me up with a lonely death.

I for a change tend to care and trust people too much and most of the time I end up with being fucked over (one might think that I would have learned already) I wouldn't mind some tutoring in a subject of 'how to not give a shit' - just to balance things out.

yeh actually sometimes i'm a weird balance of heartless and stupidly caring... last week, for the first time in 8 years, i said no to 'lending' money to a friend who already owes me £600... and i feel like a right tnuc lol

I found that I was a little prick when I was younger, but now I'm pretty chilled out, must be the weed

ch3 wrote:

Delendi wrote:i reeeeeeeally wish i still had that glossy eyed innocence of youth. my cynicism, lack of trust and apathy is going to wind me up with a lonely death.

I for a change tend to care and trust people too much and most of the time I end up with being fucked over (one might think that I would have learned already) I wouldn't mind some tutoring in a subject of 'how to not give a shit' - just to balance things out.

It's a tricky balance though, one I constantly fail on. Seemed like every time I'd try and do something decent, I'd generally end up getting fucked over for it.

exactly... i still have the soft side, but i now have the ability to tell it to toughen the fuck up.

Delendi wrote:exactly... i still have the soft side, but i now have the ability to tell it to toughen the fuck up.

Just try and direct the good vibes to people that deserve it rather than the parasites that don't. It gradually becomes a bit easier but some fuckers always slip through the net.

dr ddd wrote:cynicism FTW! I find my life a lot more amusing with it...

but i would ask shonkle's opinions on this as he clearly has the most experience here

Maybe he can articulate his cynicism better then most but, that doesn't mean he's more cynical

Shonky wrote:

Delendi wrote:exactly... i still have the soft side, but i now have the ability to tell it to toughen the fuck up.

Just try and direct the good vibes to people that deserve it rather than the parasites that don't. It gradually becomes a bit easier but some fuckers always slip through the net.

Good advice. Now someone please invent a parasite detector!

Shonky wrote:

dr ddd wrote:cynicism FTW! I find my life a lot more amusing with it...

but i would ask shonkle's opinions on this as he clearly has the most experience here

Cynicism's fucking shit to be honest, no finer way to take the joy out of existence - think it's default mode given the lack of a shit most people give about anything, being constantly marketed at and bullshitted by vested interests and seeing mediocrity celebrated in order to sell even more pointlessness to the gullible twats of society.

Nothing more dreary than thinking that the be-all and end-all of civilisation is that knowing winks and no emotional involvement in anything by post-ironic people who don't trust or believe in anything and think they know it all is now seen as the pinnacle of detachment. Shit state of affairs I think.

Yeah, when the fuck did a tissue thin vail of irony become something that should be aspired to or even considered cool?

metalboxproducts wrote:

Shonky wrote:

dr ddd wrote:cynicism FTW! I find my life a lot more amusing with it...

but i would ask shonkle's opinions on this as he clearly has the most experience here

Cynicism's fucking shit to be honest, no finer way to take the joy out of existence - think it's default mode given the lack of a shit most people give about anything, being constantly marketed at and bullshitted by vested interests and seeing mediocrity celebrated in order to sell even more pointlessness to the gullible twats of society.

Nothing more dreary than thinking that the be-all and end-all of civilisation is that knowing winks and no emotional involvement in anything by post-ironic people who don't trust or believe in anything and think they know it all is now seen as the pinnacle of detachment. Shit state of affairs I think.

Yeah, when the fuck did a tissue thin vail of irony become something that should be aspired to or even considered cool?

Last resort for the emotionally gutless isn't it, why bother having any involvement with anything when you can just tear strips off it from a distance. There is enough stuff that genuinely deserves contempt in this world, not being able to filter out that which is good and just damning everything is not healthy for the individual or for society.

Shonky wrote:

dr ddd wrote:cynicism FTW! I find my life a lot more amusing with it...

but i would ask shonkle's opinions on this as he clearly has the most experience here

Cynicism's fucking shit to be honest, no finer way to take the joy out of existence - think it's default mode given the lack of a shit most people give about anything, being constantly marketed at and bullshitted by vested interests and seeing mediocrity celebrated in order to sell even more pointlessness to the gullible twats of society.

Nothing more dreary than thinking that the be-all and end-all of civilisation is that knowing winks and no emotional involvement in anything by post-ironic people who don't trust or believe in anything and think they know it all is now seen as the pinnacle of detachment. Shit state of affairs I think.

A cynical rant about cynicism. Brilliant.

Jubscarz wrote:

Shonky wrote:

dr ddd wrote:cynicism FTW! I find my life a lot more amusing with it...

but i would ask shonkle's opinions on this as he clearly has the most experience here

Cynicism's fucking shit to be honest, no finer way to take the joy out of existence - think it's default mode given the lack of a shit most people give about anything, being constantly marketed at and bullshitted by vested interests and seeing mediocrity celebrated in order to sell even more pointlessness to the gullible twats of society.

Nothing more dreary than thinking that the be-all and end-all of civilisation is that knowing winks and no emotional involvement in anything by post-ironic people who don't trust or believe in anything and think they know it all is now seen as the pinnacle of detachment. Shit state of affairs I think.

A cynical rant about cynicism. Brilliant.

Might actually do a 180 degree flip and end up being idealistic. Careful now.

Shonky wrote:

Jubscarz wrote:

Shonky wrote:

dr ddd wrote:cynicism FTW! I find my life a lot more amusing with it...

but i would ask shonkle's opinions on this as he clearly has the most experience here

Cynicism's fucking shit to be honest, no finer way to take the joy out of existence - think it's default mode given the lack of a shit most people give about anything, being constantly marketed at and bullshitted by vested interests and seeing mediocrity celebrated in order to sell even more pointlessness to the gullible twats of society.

Nothing more dreary than thinking that the be-all and end-all of civilisation is that knowing winks and no emotional involvement in anything by post-ironic people who don't trust or believe in anything and think they know it all is now seen as the pinnacle of detachment. Shit state of affairs I think.

A cynical rant about cynicism. Brilliant.

Might actually do a 180 degree flip and end up being idealistic. Careful now.

hahaha. Yeah it's all roses init?

The weird thing is most people would say im well over cynical and bitter about the world but i still have some faith left in humanity. It would seem that most people have very little hope left. I actually have more faith in humanity now than i did whan i was younger.

Depends how you define tnuc really

BlizzardMusic wrote:Depends how you define tnuc really

This is wah ti was gonna say.

Shonky wrote:

Jubscarz wrote:

Shonky wrote:

dr ddd wrote:cynicism FTW! I find my life a lot more amusing with it...

but i would ask shonkle's opinions on this as he clearly has the most experience here

Cynicism's fucking shit to be honest, no finer way to take the joy out of existence - think it's default mode given the lack of a shit most people give about anything, being constantly marketed at and bullshitted by vested interests and seeing mediocrity celebrated in order to sell even more pointlessness to the gullible twats of society.

Nothing more dreary than thinking that the be-all and end-all of civilisation is that knowing winks and no emotional involvement in anything by post-ironic people who don't trust or believe in anything and think they know it all is now seen as the pinnacle of detachment. Shit state of affairs I think.

A cynical rant about cynicism. Brilliant.

Might actually do a 180 degree flip and end up being idealistic. Careful now.

Hmm I dunno Shonx, sounds a bit dangerous you might break something.

To be honest, I enjoy the odd moment of cynicism here and there... But it's a fine line between having some objective viewpoint on the world around you which gives you the potential to see through notions that may be romanticised and sugar coated by others and letting it take over your life to the point where it's preventing you from living it, even though it may initially and temporarily make you feel better about yourself.
I've found that putting anything under too much scrutiny will inevitably lead to exposing flaws, whether or not this becomes a mantra is the individual's decision and their right. However, dwelling on things and living too negatively invariably leads to dissatisfaction, which can become a habit. At which point, I'd say either change the direction of one's life or try a reprogram on how one approaches it - but then that's me and, unfortunately, I do not rule the world as yet.
Maybe I sound a bit of a hippy here, but I do believe individual's have their own responsibility for their lives and it's often too much of a temptation to put the onus on the world around them.
(Now back to working on a flipping sunday for those blood-thirsty gits who enslave me to the machine we live in )

I was Peter Pan in my 4th grade play.