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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:27 pm
by mudda
Logic Sexpress 7.1
Native synths too clean. Need more funk in the mix.
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:58 pm
by 3dm
Frustratingly, Philip Jeck doesn't seem to have any working audio on his website, which is a real shame, as it looks like he does some interesting stuff.
Monolake I'd heard of before but didn't know much about (nice moody Depeche Mode Rerub).
I love their 'photos' as well - pure genius!
Also love the idea of their studio being like an indoor garden, with potted plants all over the place.
My place seems to be like the Bermuda Triangle for plants, so I won't be trying that one for a while.
Ryojiikeda's website is willfully difficult to navigate, and there doesn't seem to be any audio there either, unless I missed a bit.
Alva Noto's ringtones rock, except my phone is too old to take things as 'modern' as ripped ringtone samples!
Couldn't help noticing they've collabbed with Sakamoto, as I have some Yellow Magic Orchestra tunes on vinyl here.
Luvvit!
In return, here's a little something to whet your appetite for all things Cambridge and Electronic, starting with:
http://www.bad-timing.co.uk/
Our city's resident Theramin virtuoso:
http://www.manfromuranus.com/
And my own personal Favourite:
http://www.umbusiness.co.uk/
Well, this is after all where Pink Floyd and Monty Python started, so you wouldn't really expect anything less than wierd and wonderful, would you?
Enjoy!
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:25 pm
by narcossist
re: ryoji ikeda, theres one track in particular on his 0'C
cd where the sub sounds like its going to pop your eardrums. starts like a dot then expands to fill the whole stereo field. good job really cos the rest of the tune consists purely of a single white noise beep. lost the cd so i've no idea what track it is but you can check it at boomkat.
http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=19774
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:56 am
by sinewave
3DM wrote:Frustratingly, Philip Jeck doesn't seem to have any working audio on his website, which is a real shame, as it looks like he does some interesting stuff.
Monolake I'd heard of before but didn't know much about (nice moody Depeche Mode Rerub).
I love their 'photos' as well - pure genius!
Also love the idea of their studio being like an indoor garden, with potted plants all over the place.
My place seems to be like the Bermuda Triangle for plants, so I won't be trying that one for a while.
Ryojiikeda's website is willfully difficult to navigate, and there doesn't seem to be any audio there either, unless I missed a bit.
Alva Noto's ringtones rock, except my phone is too old to take things as 'modern' as ripped ringtone samples!
Couldn't help noticing they've collabbed with Sakamoto, as I have some Yellow Magic Orchestra tunes on vinyl here.
Luvvit!
In return, here's a little something to whet your appetite for all things Cambridge and Electronic, starting with:
http://www.bad-timing.co.uk/
Our city's resident Theramin virtuoso:
http://www.manfromuranus.com/
And my own personal Favourite:
http://www.umbusiness.co.uk/
Well, this is after all where Pink Floyd and Monty Python started, so you wouldn't really expect anything less than wierd and wonderful, would you?
Enjoy!
with regards to monolake, their older stuff seems to be more up my street.
i have a few cd's of the artists i mentioned. if you really cant come across anything, i could help you out!
i'll check out your recommendations this week too!
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:40 pm
by 3dm
re: ryoji ikeda, theres one track in particular on his 0'C
cd where the sub sounds like its going to pop your eardrums. starts like a dot then expands to fill the whole stereo field. good job really cos the rest of the tune consists purely of a single white noise beep. lost the cd so i've no idea what track it is but you can check it at boomkat.
http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=19774
There's a track on that site called "Zero", which has a big sub in it - is that the one you mean?
The funny thing is that it's remixable, as it's definitely got a 'groove' of sorts in there (it seems to run in a cycle of about 4 or 8 bars, depending on how you count it) - not anything you can dance to though!
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:35 pm
by narcossist
yeah that'll be the one, tried sampling that 'groove' and layering it as a sub sub on a track i did bout a year ago, i'll dig it out and post it up here. Doesn't really do it justice though cos my skills were lackin i guess, but its defo asking to be used propperly.
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:47 pm
by 3dm
Well, you could always have another crack at it now, couldn't you?
That stuff is deffo the most minimalist material I've heard for a while!
Makes Steve Reich sound busy!
Delayed reaction here I know- Had to dig deep to find this thread again so I could reply, as things move fast on this forum.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:32 am
by sinewave
check out alva noto's new album 'for'. i just noticed it on boomkat.. if his performance at the tate modern in may was anything to go by, i'd highly recommend getting it !
http://www.discogs.com/release/720477
and
http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=22580
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:44 am
by cure
reason + soundforge + cubase + vsts
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:49 pm
by mumbler
I couldn't let this talk of minimalists go by without mentioning Alvin Lucier. I knew him first as a professor and advisor, but digging further into his discography revealed a wealth of beautiful sounds. I have an enormous amount of respect for the man.
Some of his work may appear overly conceptual or academic, at first glance, but his compositions are incredible in their attention to sound as a physical object. Not only minimal in result, but also in means. Some scores approach the poetic in their simplicity of conception and execution.
Take, for example,
I am sitting in a room from 1981. He recorded a short excerpt of his own speech (describing the process of the music) and then played back the tape into a room, recording the result. This process is repeated until the resonant frequencies of the room overcome the intelligibility of the speech. Gorgeous, gradually evolving drones appear and the spoken word disappears over a period of 45 minutes.
Lovely Music record label
Wesleyan University page
mumbler
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:57 pm
by corpsey
I've got to start producing really. I think I'll pick whatever it is jubs has nicked off the internet personally.
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:02 pm
by mr. messer
Rebelutionary wrote:I sample my own vocals and do Avant Garde Jazz stuff
you 'do' avant-garde 'stuff'?
what do u play? i would like to hear some....
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:24 pm
by threnody
3DM wrote:Frustratingly, Philip Jeck doesn't seem to have any working audio on his website, which is a real shame, as it looks like he does some interesting stuff.
Enjoy!
Philip Jeck is ace...does his stuff by crafting cuts into records to make loop points and then sets them up...whole orchestras of 145 record players....i did a few record cuts like this a long time ago and multitracked them on a 4 track (just for the studio equipment bit of this thread!!)...anyway i have a couple of philip jeck tracks but one is on tape and the other is buried somewhere on my computer, never to be found (probably)!
Talking of minimalists i'm friends with Gavin Bryars' daughter...to be honest minimalism can be great but i never really went for the direction they went in, especially philip glass....why try to repliocate great ideas with instruments when electronics were taking off? Stockhausen on the other hand.....genius!
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:06 pm
by braiden
threnody wrote:3DM wrote:Frustratingly, Philip Jeck doesn't seem to have any working audio on his website, which is a real shame, as it looks like he does some interesting stuff.
Enjoy!
Philip Jeck is ace...does his stuff by crafting cuts into records to make loop points and then sets them up...whole orchestras of 145 record players....i did a few record cuts like this a long time ago and multitracked them on a 4 track (just for the studio equipment bit of this thread!!)...anyway i have a couple of philip jeck tracks but one is on tape and the other is buried somewhere on my computer, never to be found (probably)!
Talking of minimalists i'm friends with Gavin Bryars' daughter...to be honest minimalism can be great but i never really went for the direction they went in, especially philip glass....why try to repliocate great ideas with instruments when electronics were taking off? Stockhausen on the other hand.....genius!
I saw Gavin Bryars last year, had some great moments, and some slightly pretentious moments. Lovely man though.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:12 am
by sinewave
mumbler wrote:I couldn't let this talk of minimalists go by without mentioning Alvin Lucier. I knew him first as a professor and advisor, but digging further into his discography revealed a wealth of beautiful sounds. I have an enormous amount of respect for the man.
Some of his work may appear overly conceptual or academic, at first glance, but his compositions are incredible in their attention to sound as a physical object. Not only minimal in result, but also in means. Some scores approach the poetic in their simplicity of conception and execution.
Take, for example,
I am sitting in a room from 1981. He recorded a short excerpt of his own speech (describing the process of the music) and then played back the tape into a room, recording the result. This process is repeated until the resonant frequencies of the room overcome the intelligibility of the speech. Gorgeous, gradually evolving drones appear and the spoken word disappears over a period of 45 minutes.
Lovely Music record label
Wesleyan University page
mumbler
thanks for that.. i'll check it out tonight.
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:19 pm
by moenze jackson
Good to see some reason users on here, surprised no one uses any Native Instruments like Reaktor.
FL has come along way, but i still can't take it seriously. no offence to any of you FL users.
I personally use Reason 3.0 for the bulk of my writing, Ableton, Reactor, Sound Forge, and Vst's.
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:14 pm
by ramadanman
Moenze Jackson wrote:
FL has come along way, but i still can't take it seriously.
Why not?
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:16 am
by loefah
if your on a mac get logic....if your on a pc get cubase sx. fruity and reason are great but youll ultimately want more, so cut out the long thing.
to create sounds use high quality plugs(ie: ni/spectrasonics) and id advise investing in a good synth.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:53 am
by ramadanman
I'd agree if starting from scratch then go for cubase or logic - but the problem is switching - it's pretty hard, so you may as well choose the 'best' first. i've tried to switch and it just ain't happening
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:01 am
by docwra
I'm happy with FL. Wouldn't switch. Don't see the need to.