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i'm talking about noize not rock and rollDJ Whistla wrote:I remember when "Noise" became fashionable.r33lc4sh wrote:noizeJubscarz wrote: Is any form of music safe?
Who else remembers when the press was going mad for Sonic Youth, Harry Pussy, E.A.R and others....
everything from rock and roll is rock and roll couse it's rock and rollDJ Whistla wrote:hahaha
bro u ever listened to Harry Pussy or E.A.R or early Boredoms or what about "Twin Infinitives" by Royal Trux????
Serious man, yeh its from rock but it def aint rock an roll, lol!!! (If it is then i guess Distance is a heavy metal dj seeing as he is influenced by US metal!)
r33lc4sh wrote:everything from rock and roll is rock and roll couse it's rock and roll
i was writing about noize like the one by zbigniew karkowski - pure noise and nothing more
Discogs.com wrote:Real Name: Zbigniew Karkowski
Profile: Zbigniew Karkowski was born in 1958 in Krakow, Poland. He studied composition at the State College of Music in Gothenburg, Sweden, aesthetics of modern music at the University of Gothenburg's Department of Musicology, and computer music at the Chalmers University of Technology. After completing his studies in Sweden, he studied sonology for a year at the Royal Conservatory of Music in Den Haag, Netherlands. During his education, he also attended many summer composition master courses arranged by Centre Acanthes in Avignon and Aix-en-Provence, France, studying with Iannis Xenakis, Olivier Messiaen, Pierre Boulez, and Georges Aperghis, among others. He works actively as a composer of both acoustic and electroacoustic music. He has written pieces for large orchestra (commissioned and performed by the Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra), plus an opera and several chamber music pieces that were performed by professional ensembles in Sweden, Poland, and Germany. He is a founding member of the electroacoustic music performance trio "Sensorband." Zbigniew has lived and worked in Tokyo, Japan for the past eight years, and is active in the underground noise scene there
DJ Whistla wrote: So this guy is a "Classical Musician/Composer" in your definition because he's from the classical tradition of studying music and writing for orchestras
I saw Thurston Moore doing pure noise a few years back at South Bank.r33lc4sh wrote:i'm talking about noize not rock and rollDJ Whistla wrote:I remember when "Noise" became fashionable.r33lc4sh wrote:noizeJubscarz wrote: Is any form of music safe?
Who else remembers when the press was going mad for Sonic Youth, Harry Pussy, E.A.R and others....
P Diddy kept it very real in the early days...he's just an awesome tactician and a&r dude. Some of those artists in dubstep who've really worked hard, u know who u are (not just jumped onto a bandwagon/setup and flowed with them) I believe deserve some proper commercial success.ThinKing wrote:Stop moaning.
For every P Diddy there's a hip hop artist who 'keeps it real', eschewing corporate success in favour of making honest music.
IF commercial success came to dubstep, the sellouts would be outed from the underground and the rest would keep on keeping on. Personally I think some of the artists in the scene deserve some wider exposure, and the bucks that come with it might help even more music see a release.
i should start selling banner ads 
yeah, FWD is going to move there often nowPaulie wrote:This is the beginning of The End.
dubway wrote:so dubstep is officially "hot" now.. hmmm..
Doing a version of 100% by sonic youth.Keep ya ears open.DJ Whistla wrote:I remember when "Noise" became fashionable.r33lc4sh wrote:noizeJubscarz wrote: Is any form of music safe?
Who else remembers when the press was going mad for Sonic Youth, Harry Pussy, E.A.R and others....
(I aint cussing there music, it was/is called "Noise" and was listed in Rough Trade at the time as such)
No-one else remember? Oh well maybe I'm jus old, lol!
But yeh this is the beginning of the end as Paulie rightly says.
"Stella Sessions" on Radio One! I cant think of anything much worse than people with no knowledge of this music listening to some of the best music out there and comparing it to the pop shite that Radio 1 play most
of the time.
"I love that chilled tune with the flute, you kno that dubby thingy, Radio 1 played it after that Heaven is A Place on Earth trance tune"<- This is where we are headed if we aint careful (do you want that?)
Thurston Moore secret gig at the old blue last about a couple of month ago.threnody wrote:I saw Thurston Moore doing pure noise a few years back at South Bank.r33lc4sh wrote:i'm talking about noize not rock and rollDJ Whistla wrote:I remember when "Noise" became fashionable.r33lc4sh wrote:noizeJubscarz wrote: Is any form of music safe?
Who else remembers when the press was going mad for Sonic Youth, Harry Pussy, E.A.R and others....
gravious wrote: Does it matter if people don't know what this music is about? Do you have to know to enjoy it? (and if so, why??)
Whats to lose?
Big up metalbox!metalboxproducts wrote:Doing a version of 100% by sonic youth.Keep ya ears open.
well i think the concern is a dilution of quality and of vibes.Rich_c90 wrote:gravious wrote: Does it matter if people don't know what this music is about? Do you have to know to enjoy it? (and if so, why??)
Whats to lose?
the Dubstep.Rich_c90 wrote:gravious wrote:
Whats to lose?
Yes Ramadanman! That is it completely!ramadanman wrote:well i think the concern is a dilution of quality and of vibes.Rich_c90 wrote:gravious wrote: Does it matter if people don't know what this music is about? Do you have to know to enjoy it? (and if so, why??)
Whats to lose?
one of the things that distinguishes dubstep from other scenes is seriously good vibes at the dance, and also pretty high standards when it comes to releases.
for me, the cliché description of dubstep as music from the "hood" kinda sums it up... all a bit voyeuristic really..
that is really cliched, but - hey - its the sunday times style magazine!!! Cliche-orama...ramadanman wrote: well i think the concern is a dilution of quality and of vibes.
one of the things that distinguishes dubstep from other scenes is seriously good vibes at the dance, and also pretty high standards when it comes to releases.
for me, the cliché description of dubstep as music from the "hood" kinda sums it up... all a bit voyeuristic really..
