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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:45 pm
by duderonomy
I think that Dubstep might aswell be a subgenre of DnB... a lot of the tunes fall into the same formulaic wobble, and a lot of Dubstep DJs, just like DnB DJs (and Djs from other genres I guess) only play Dubstep tunes, and half the time they only play their own tunes or tunes released by their mates*, and there's the same stupid 'holding back the release of ltd dubplates' thing going on too** - all of this happens in DnB, UK Garage too, and I bet to an outsider, it's just the latest brand of what would be called UK dance music.
* makes you wonder if their record collection is only a few dozen deep
** goes back to Jamaican soundsystem culture
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:38 pm
by darkmatter
Mr Hyde wrote:can go on forever through music evolving right back to tribal drumming!
hopefully it'll go full circle, but this time with bigger sublines
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:54 pm
by pk
am i right in thinking most of the people from the US who like dubstep used to be massive dnb fans?
honest question
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:58 pm
by jonnyrebel
pk wrote:am i right in thinking most of the people from the US who like dubstep used to be massive dnb fans?
honest question
i dont think there are as many rifts between the sub genres over there tbh
Id like to point out that drum and bass (in its liquid form or in its evil form) can still blow you away its just that usually the people that compare dubstep with d n b are the ones that like dj pleasure or some jump up bullshit.
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:07 pm
by concept_
its not called jump up anymore
its called 'machete' music
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:13 pm
by joe muggs
Fuck the hardcore continuum.
Grooverider calls jungle "house music".
Kiwis call it all "doof music".
It's all disco in my book.
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:37 pm
by blizzardmusic
this thread delivers.
TO THE SNH
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:05 pm
by Littlefoot
Jonnyrebel wrote:Ikarai wrote:good christ. either lock this or kill me. your choice.
THIS
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:19 pm
by wooda916
i think wether you like it or not dnb and dubstep will always have a link as alot of people are introduced to it from it being in room 2 at a dnb event.
especially if you live outside of London.
but tbh, who really gives a shit?
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:36 pm
by freqone
djfurness wrote:see the lovely Dubstep Forum sprit lives on.
its so good being involved in a scene with so many fuckheads.
the guy was asking a question.
this board is so on its fucking high horse sometimes.
I would of used less profane language,,, but well said...
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:40 pm
by w!5k
Nah I'd say it was a sub genre of uk garage, but nows its a genre in its own rights.
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:58 pm
by cogi
lol. i justed wanted to write that. brilliant thread. i love all the back chat.
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:59 pm
by jess_is_not_ok
badger wrote:Signus wrote:This forum isn't just for people biggin up there new tunes, radio shows, events etc it's here to help people out as well. So much for us being a friendly community
hah agreed. the forum certainly seems to have lost the friendly vibe that got so many people interested in the first place
I agree. :/
GROUP HUG... everyone, group hug.
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:18 pm
by joe muggs
Jess_is_NOT_OK wrote:badger wrote:Signus wrote:This forum isn't just for people biggin up there new tunes, radio shows, events etc it's here to help people out as well. So much for us being a friendly community
hah agreed. the forum certainly seems to have lost the friendly vibe that got so many people interested in the first place
I agree. :/
GROUP HUG... everyone, group hug.
Raves haven't got the atmosphere they used to! Quick everyone! Hop in the time machine back to '88!
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:31 am
by dubway
moved and unlocked
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:25 pm
by frodo
No.
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:30 pm
by dubluke
Joe Muggs wrote:Jess_is_NOT_OK wrote:badger wrote:Signus wrote:This forum isn't just for people biggin up there new tunes, radio shows, events etc it's here to help people out as well. So much for us being a friendly community
hah agreed. the forum certainly seems to have lost the friendly vibe that got so many people interested in the first place
I agree. :/
GROUP HUG... everyone, group hug.
Raves haven't got the atmosphere they used to! Quick everyone! Hop in the time machine back to '88!
hugging people in the rave is the one! i don't care if it makes me a stereotype
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:26 am
by prisoner
pk wrote:am i right in thinking most of the people from the US who like dubstep used to be massive dnb fans?
honest question
most that i know were/are.
i can't speak for everybody, but since ukg never really lasted all that long here, the direct link between the two seems to be missing on this side of the pond.
there are those of us who have followed it from there, but i think we're in the minority. and even from there, most who were into 2step were junglists before that.
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:45 am
by bright maroon
To me it sounds alot like early drum and bass - when the beats were more funky and not rollin' so much - like DJ Zinc style...
...but without a doubt, dubstep is it's own thing.
I remember saying once(in my opinion again, and I am just a listener), that it is the first real hybrid of drum and bass that stands solidly on it's own - that formulaically was solid as something new and completely autonomous within itself...
I can definatly hear the progressive house influence as well - maybe that's the garage thing the UK heads are referring to..
musically though - it is the best and strongest most interesting new sub genre - I'm in for it, I like the sound very much.
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:55 am
by bright maroon
It would be nice though to hear how some early or serious producers came about synthesizing their influences to get to this sound.
I'm fairly sure they weren't working from a vacuum...